You should really try to use your brainstorms a little better -- it's the best card in your deck in something like Oath (restricted Brainstorm is probably the biggest reason Oath in Vintage sucks). You run a bunch of flat dead draws (excess Oaths, Fatties, etc), so you should wait to use your brainstorms until you actually need them.
Just for example -- M2G1. You have a completely dead draw in hand (Elesh Norn), a card that is likely way too slow in your matchup (Jace), and you have a shuffle effect in hand. You're just much better off waiting until you can shuffle away the two dead cards -- Turn 1 EOT brainstorm is a complete waste of the best card in your deck (I can think of very, very few decks in any format that would want an EOT turn 1 brainstorm, unless they're getting thoughtseize/duressed).
Just my $.02, and something I've noticed watching a lot of your videos (I recall you complaining once about drawing Blightsteel Colossus several times in a game -- when you had wasted 3 brainstorms in a row without a shuffle effect).
Anyway -- thanks for the content though! Always like watching Classic Content.
I put up my youtube on posts that are going off the front page. 99% of the time I do it for the writer solely expecting the post to be taken off the front page because most people don't read past the first page.
But hey, look who is talking, the guy who looks like he needs a year in a gym, contacts, and a haircut that looks like his mom didn't do it with a bowl on his head. Please don't talk unless you put a legit pic.
Do you know what 50% of my job is? Video Editing!!! That means that I have all the software and it's good to practice the editing on MTGO games. I can also say what other people are thinking. I don't make money off of it, so I don't care. I do enjoy when people tell me they like it, but I don't really care, I do it because it takes me 10 mnutes.
And basement boy? I had my own apartment, but I am at home because my dad shattered his shoulder and since it's his right arm I have to take care of him, so yeah, I have to be home at the moment.
But gardevi, go back to writing posts about how good WG is in ISD drafts. I am sure you are helping out masses of people.
I wouldn't go as far to say he has a point, cause well anyone with half a brain will realize his posts over time have been ramblings of some basement boy caught at home with Mommy and Daddy.
However, like greyes said, I can understand some of the point. I personally play standard paper FNM's about twice a month and only because trying to find a local shop that has decent Legacy tournaments is extremely difficult (not impossible, Chicago has several within an hour from my house). I don't play std because of the new and shiney stuff he mentions, matter of fact after playing countless hours of Legacy, I find std quite boring tbh.
Once you get that taste of eternal formats like Legacy and Classic, I honestly don't think Standard can or ever will fulfill that taste in your mouth.
Paper legacy events are doing just fine, 277 players at the weekend open. Why they aren't firing online is beyond me. I don't think it has to do with hoarding, but I'm pretty sure it has everything to do with Modern. Legacy players might have sold staples to buy into Modern and since Modern hasn't taken off they either kept their modern staples to see how the format might end up or they sold them and bought into standard. I don't think many bought into Classic as I am more along the assumption that Legacy players made the transition into Classic. I know I've personally joined two Classic DE's recently.
WOTC isn't good at admitting they make mistakes, so don't look for them to admit anytime that bringing in Modern ruined Legacy. Legacy was firing events even during the Misstep era, blaming Misstep is flat out silly.
@ Alternate - seriously dude, give it a rest. Your posts are nothing more than laughable at best. If comedic entertainment is your purpose, then well done. If you are actually trying to enlightened us with your brillance, then please do us all a favor and stop posting.
Anytime you see forsaken city and/or instill energy you are playing against old school Stasis =)
Its not turbo Stasis though, as Turbo ran only howling mines and feldon's canes as win conditions with no creatures at all. Turbo also used Kismet (now Frozen Aether) for the hard lock.
I can sympathize with some of what's been said here. It just doesn't make sense to me. Dump a couple hundred bucks into Standard and play DEs 3 or 4 times a day all year, or dump a couple grand into Classic and play events maybe twice a week if you're lucky. (Oh and you'll need around 7 cards dedicated to beating one deck if you want to have a chance to compete) Wizards shits on the format on a regular basis because heaven forbid Standard players decide they'd rather play Classic and not have to buy new cards as frequently. (This is coming from someone who plays each format more so than most people posting here.)
Yeah this guy is OBV trolling on things he has no actual kowledge of. Would have ignored him, but didnt realize he was simply a troll.
I'm perfectly happy with us firing 2-4 events a week (I cant even play in that many). And since when is knowing everyone in a tourney and having an actual COMMUNITY a bad thing? I'd much rather play against people I know and respect than a bunch of random 12 year olds who wine and disconnect when things don't go their way. Thats why I dont play standard, I'd rather play a close-knit format played almost exclusively by adults.
I really don't know what this guy's problem is, what a DB
Isn't the Brazilian league just a minor leagues for La Ligua? But then again, with the money they have almost every club team outside of Europe is a minor league team for the big 10 (Man U, Man C, Barca, RM, etc.). And I am sorry I am American, but I happen to know a little. I did have a tryout with the Ajax training squad.
But I do have my money on Brazil winning the WC on their home turf.
tell me about it! Those bears bear a hatred bigger than life itself. It's an oppressive force in the format. BAN TRUE BELIEVER!!
Not to mention the cost of building it... getting those leonin relic-warders will eat through your life savings like a Yule Ooze through a thanks-giving dinner...
I am kind of amazed at just how few instants and sorceries this block has to offer the format. I suppose given the power level of the block itself, that shouldn't be too surprising.
One creature I'd like to mention is Viseling. I have always had a soft spot for the guy. Black Vice is a pretty powerful card, but the fact that you have to target a single player has usually kept it out of most commander decks. Viseling hits all opponents though, and might be a pretty useful guy. Could be a nice punisher against those blue mega draw decks, and just be nice bonus damage against most other decks. It is certainly far from a staple card, but he might me worth it with certain game plans. I'm going to give him a try at least.
I also think a few of the flash auras might be worth giving a whirl, like Cho-Manno's Blessing, or Latulla's Orders.
GW Hate is so hateful! Every single card is full of hate. Leonin Arbiter! Qasali Pridemage! Aven Mindcensor! Kataki! Can I please play my cards before you beat me down with 2/2s?? So Borken.
Aren't we free to play whatever we like? I'm most of a drafter myself, and got into classic because I wanted to play some constructed format that wouldn't force me to constantly buy and sell cards, as they rotate in and out of the format.
So my monthly process goes like: draft a lot, sell all the money cards, "store" those tix in classic staples, play classic DE's, rinse and repeat.
Classic is one of the most fun formats to play. You remember fun, don't you? It's what got us into this game in the first place?
So play whatever your heart desires, m8, I will do the same. For me that's classic goodness. For you? Whatever tickles your fancy.
Stop hating (or, if you want to keep on hating, build GW hate bears - truly a degenerate and combotastic classic deck - and join classic). We'll love to have a ranter back on the classic community. It's only nice guys here atm, we sure could use you!
Yes Classic is a small community where we all know each other and we're excited when we fire 3 events in a week. I just don't understand why you are so upset about that.
You can cry and cry about classic and the other formats not having event's firing, but people don't play them in numbers.
What do people do the most on MTGO? Draft. And when you draft, you play those cards in the format currently being played, which is Standard.
Can you show me a classic/legacy/modern DE that has more than the same 20-30 people? Then show me a ISD Block DE or STD DE that has less than a minimum 30 people.
You play, and you know the people that you are playing. Watch the VIDEOS ON THE DAMN SITE idiots. Every time you see a video, it's between people who know each other and are on each other's buddy list's unless they aren't really competitive format players.
Just look at the numbers above. Try to get into a tournament with more than 8 people on a daily basis. I would love to see it since it hasn't happened in a while. Maybe when Snappy first came out the Classic players wet their pants, but other than that, it's the same old cards I stopped playing with over 10 years ago.
And the money is equal? You can throw together a winning standard deck for $20. Look at Delver. The only card worth money is Snapcaster. And there is no "Jace" so the "best" deck, Ramp Run, or Mono-Red, or White(u) are either running Planeswalkers worth $20 or not running a planeswalker at all. The only expensive card in Ramp Run is Primeval Titan, and a lot of people have them if they have been playing for a year or so. The Thrun is a little expensive, but most people have them from drafting, or if they sold them, they are available from every bot in the system.
The Swords aren't cheap, but also aren't entirely necessary. But if I was to spend money on anything, it's the Swords because there will never be equipment as good as that ever again.
And you think my idea's are unfounded? Go play an 8 man tournament. Pay the 6 tix, and then sit there for hours waiting for 7 other people to join.
You can get all the 2 player games you want, but guess what, the prizes are hilarious.
You spend how much on these decks? And then you win packs of M12. That is hilarious. M12 packs are worthless. And the 8 man tournaments I think are the equivalent of a 4-3-2-2. They don't even get you packs of ISD, they give you packs that wont break even in cost.
If you play standard, you get ISD packs, and if you go 3-1, you get 6 packs of ISD, which is actually worth something because you can play in a sealed or a draft. M12 drafts fire about as much as a 2 man legacy match.
So let's see, if you want to build the Worlds winning STD deck, you need 80 tix approx. for Primeval Titan, and the rest will cost you 30 tix at the most. People who drafted SOM, and there was a lot of drafting, have the Inkmoth Nexus's or can get them cheap from another person. The rest of the deck is commons and 4 tix for Kessig Wolf Runs.
Delver of Secrets costs you, at the most, 40 tix.
So you can get Underground Sea's, or Build a STD deck. I think 99% of people would rather build a deck than just get lands.
And hey, I am so happy for you that you got the 16 people needed to get 2, and that is a big TWO, Classic DE's to fire. That is so nice for you. Sounds so exciting. I wonder how many events you joined until one actually started?
The same for the other 2 formats.
Guess what. You are the same people over, and over, and over and over. Guess what, nobody else shares your opinion but you and your in the closet boy toy Whiffy_FTW/Whiffy Penguin.
If you think that only 1% of people play the other 3 formats, then just look at the amounts of events and the amount of players in each one. Then you look at the names of the players in the formats. The same guy will never win the same daily twice in a week, while the same names will pop up in every classic/legacy/and modern DE.
Classic/Legacy/Modern players are like hoarders. You know those old people who have like a hundred cats in their house and loads of garbage? It's because they can't give up and can't move on. They are scared of new things and think they will lose their dominance. Well guess what. New things are better things. So enjoy your same 16 people, your same cards, your same decks, and your same "archetypes" (Just call them decks, that is what they are right?). I will gladly take my 1800+ Limited rating, my standard decks, and enjoy playing more than 8 man queues and 2 player 2 tix games.
It's not trolling when you are right. But I would say you are a troll since you are too scared to leave your favorite format because nobody else likes it. You remind me of the kid that sits in the back of the class and hates everyone else because they are "conformists" then you go home and play WOW. Have fun killing your ORC's and monsters, and hanging out with your virtual friends. I'll stick to playing Magic late at night during the week and during sports, and then hanging out with my girl at night. I think I win this one because you have no math to back you up, while I can just show you the DE #'s and you have nothing backing you up other than your virtual dual lands and ME1 Force of Wills. Get a girl, it might help you out. Too bad Friday Night Magic isn't a place to meet women, hence why I don't play on paper.
This post wins this month's award for the largest number of dumb and or patently false statements in a single post.
Hooray for talking out our asses about things we don't actually know anything about!!!
"Maybe less than 1%" is actually "I don't know what I'm talking about so I'll make some crap up and post it". You can find a competitive classic match almost all the time and the format has been firing at least 2 and sometimes up to 3 or 4 events a week for the last month or so. Even is cas/cas people play a lot of classic and even legacy. Your number is completely made up and easily invalidated by actually looking at MTGO for more than 3 seconds.
Then you go on to rant about cost. The reality is that keeping up with competitive standard for even a few years (especially in the age of mythics) will very quickly cost you the same as buying into Classic/Legacy/Modern. If you cant afford to play those formats, that's fine, but your spreading disinformation seems more like sour grapes than helpful insight. Some of us are adults with actual jobs and can afford to play non-standard formats.
3 and 5) Most serious classic decks dont even contain infinite combos of any kind. The only commonly played one is Vault/Key, and that deck will beat you within a few turns of assembling the combo anyway. The only classic deck that even has the possibility of doing anything even close to an "infinite" combo is Metalworker/Staff and that's not even close to a commonly played deck. The top decks are Oath, Workshop, Fish, Blue-based control, and Dredge...so WTF are you talking about???
On top of this, aside from the Workshop decks, playing first is not as big of an advantage as you make it seem because the format contains Force of Will and Mental Misstep. Have you ever actually played competitive classic? If not, please do us all a favor and shut up.
Oh and I believe I have mentioned this previously and was flamed mercilessly for it, but I'll say it again because you guys just-dont-get-it.
Maybe less than 1% of MTGO players are interested in playing Legacy, Modern, and Classic.
1) People like playing with the newest cards. People are attracted to new and shiny. You also have to understand that a lot of people joined MTGO after the main cards used in Legacy/Classic/and Modern came out, so they are not familiar with them. First hand experience, I quit over a decade ago and therefor missed out on like 10 blocks or so, I don't do math.
2) STD is more affordable than the other sets. I mean classic is extremely expensive. And for the other formats, the lands alone are a load of tickets.
3) Classic, Legacy, and Modern are based on who plays first and get's the first infinite combo. The only difference between Modern and Classic is that they create an unlimited combo in modern and then they ban it, and then someone creates another unlimited combo, wash, rinse, and repeat.
4) For people who want to play STD, you already have the cards needed for most decks. So why use a ton of tickets to buy Lands, and then you have to buy the cards, like Tarmogoyf or however you spell it, when you can spend that money and make an entire deck? I mean if you want to have a shot at going at least 3-1 in a STD DE, all you need is the lands you already have, the 4-5 tix for 3 Moorland haunts, the money for Snapcaster, which most people have and is going down in price, and you can put some Delver of Secrets + some other commons and you have a competitive Blue(w) Deck. Or you can do the same and make a deck like the White(blue) that where you don't even need to have Hero of Bladehold and can still win games using ISD block cards, or the white cards I told people to buy and you all laughed at me.
5) Infinite combo's are boring. I have watched videos of classic and it's "Step 1, play mana, step 2, play card, step 3, Draw your entire deck, step 3, win game unless you run out of time. Classic is won and lost more on the clock than games.
6) Get over it. There is a reason all the classic and legacy players know each other. It's because they are the only people playing the format online.
7) You can argue that a new deck has won. YIPPIE! The next day someone creates a way to beat that deck and you never hear from it again.
Now my idea for an interesting new idea for a format is something completely unfounded.
How about Two Headed Giant? You are paired with a random partner, and your opponent the same. Then you have the choice of only playing for yourself or helping your partner. You can also have you and your partner playing with completely incompatible or compatible decks and you won't know until you play. You are given a new partner for each round.
Is it any more random than drafting? I think it would add a dynamic that you guys might not like or fall in love with. It would also add more cards to the current lists because there are cards that can affect everyone, or nobody. That way if you are playing Delver and your opponent is playing Ramp Run, you can counter while your partner get's in the damage.
The only issue is infect, but if you can't deal with infect than you can't play in general.
The best part would be that it wouldn't be hard for them to implement, and would add things to the game that haven't been there before.
Wait... Did Alternate just complain about your picture? Wow. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Geez. What an amazing moron.
You should really try to use your brainstorms a little better -- it's the best card in your deck in something like Oath (restricted Brainstorm is probably the biggest reason Oath in Vintage sucks). You run a bunch of flat dead draws (excess Oaths, Fatties, etc), so you should wait to use your brainstorms until you actually need them.
Just for example -- M2G1. You have a completely dead draw in hand (Elesh Norn), a card that is likely way too slow in your matchup (Jace), and you have a shuffle effect in hand. You're just much better off waiting until you can shuffle away the two dead cards -- Turn 1 EOT brainstorm is a complete waste of the best card in your deck (I can think of very, very few decks in any format that would want an EOT turn 1 brainstorm, unless they're getting thoughtseize/duressed).
Just my $.02, and something I've noticed watching a lot of your videos (I recall you complaining once about drawing Blightsteel Colossus several times in a game -- when you had wasted 3 brainstorms in a row without a shuffle effect).
Anyway -- thanks for the content though! Always like watching Classic Content.
Sorry about my picture, I'll go back to praising your youtube account after I go google images for dollar bills.
I was sincere about your YouTube though. Your videos are a very good way to spend an afternoon.
I put up my youtube on posts that are going off the front page. 99% of the time I do it for the writer solely expecting the post to be taken off the front page because most people don't read past the first page.
But hey, look who is talking, the guy who looks like he needs a year in a gym, contacts, and a haircut that looks like his mom didn't do it with a bowl on his head. Please don't talk unless you put a legit pic.
Do you know what 50% of my job is? Video Editing!!! That means that I have all the software and it's good to practice the editing on MTGO games. I can also say what other people are thinking. I don't make money off of it, so I don't care. I do enjoy when people tell me they like it, but I don't really care, I do it because it takes me 10 mnutes.
And basement boy? I had my own apartment, but I am at home because my dad shattered his shoulder and since it's his right arm I have to take care of him, so yeah, I have to be home at the moment.
But gardevi, go back to writing posts about how good WG is in ISD drafts. I am sure you are helping out masses of people.
He also now promotes his youtube channel, which is pretty hilarious and I'm glad he advertises it.
Man, your deck was brutal! And you played very well. Congrats. Too bad that Palmeiras didn't won the match... GW is good in Magic only.
havent we seen that all alternate does is complain and whine?
im fairly new to pure and in my little time i c that clearly.
I wouldn't go as far to say he has a point, cause well anyone with half a brain will realize his posts over time have been ramblings of some basement boy caught at home with Mommy and Daddy.
However, like greyes said, I can understand some of the point. I personally play standard paper FNM's about twice a month and only because trying to find a local shop that has decent Legacy tournaments is extremely difficult (not impossible, Chicago has several within an hour from my house). I don't play std because of the new and shiney stuff he mentions, matter of fact after playing countless hours of Legacy, I find std quite boring tbh.
Once you get that taste of eternal formats like Legacy and Classic, I honestly don't think Standard can or ever will fulfill that taste in your mouth.
Paper legacy events are doing just fine, 277 players at the weekend open. Why they aren't firing online is beyond me. I don't think it has to do with hoarding, but I'm pretty sure it has everything to do with Modern. Legacy players might have sold staples to buy into Modern and since Modern hasn't taken off they either kept their modern staples to see how the format might end up or they sold them and bought into standard. I don't think many bought into Classic as I am more along the assumption that Legacy players made the transition into Classic. I know I've personally joined two Classic DE's recently.
WOTC isn't good at admitting they make mistakes, so don't look for them to admit anytime that bringing in Modern ruined Legacy. Legacy was firing events even during the Misstep era, blaming Misstep is flat out silly.
@ Alternate - seriously dude, give it a rest. Your posts are nothing more than laughable at best. If comedic entertainment is your purpose, then well done. If you are actually trying to enlightened us with your brillance, then please do us all a favor and stop posting.
You are a cool dude.
Anytime you see forsaken city and/or instill energy you are playing against old school Stasis =)
Its not turbo Stasis though, as Turbo ran only howling mines and feldon's canes as win conditions with no creatures at all. Turbo also used Kismet (now Frozen Aether) for the hard lock.
I can sympathize with some of what's been said here. It just doesn't make sense to me. Dump a couple hundred bucks into Standard and play DEs 3 or 4 times a day all year, or dump a couple grand into Classic and play events maybe twice a week if you're lucky. (Oh and you'll need around 7 cards dedicated to beating one deck if you want to have a chance to compete) Wizards shits on the format on a regular basis because heaven forbid Standard players decide they'd rather play Classic and not have to buy new cards as frequently. (This is coming from someone who plays each format more so than most people posting here.)
Yeah this guy is OBV trolling on things he has no actual kowledge of. Would have ignored him, but didnt realize he was simply a troll.
I'm perfectly happy with us firing 2-4 events a week (I cant even play in that many). And since when is knowing everyone in a tourney and having an actual COMMUNITY a bad thing? I'd much rather play against people I know and respect than a bunch of random 12 year olds who wine and disconnect when things don't go their way. Thats why I dont play standard, I'd rather play a close-knit format played almost exclusively by adults.
I really don't know what this guy's problem is, what a DB
Isn't the Brazilian league just a minor leagues for La Ligua? But then again, with the money they have almost every club team outside of Europe is a minor league team for the big 10 (Man U, Man C, Barca, RM, etc.). And I am sorry I am American, but I happen to know a little. I did have a tryout with the Ajax training squad.
But I do have my money on Brazil winning the WC on their home turf.
I agree, more personalized writing is good. :D Keep telling us about yourself!
One of these days we should have a PureMTGO Club World Cup.
tell me about it! Those bears bear a hatred bigger than life itself. It's an oppressive force in the format. BAN TRUE BELIEVER!!
Not to mention the cost of building it... getting those leonin relic-warders will eat through your life savings like a Yule Ooze through a thanks-giving dinner...
I am kind of amazed at just how few instants and sorceries this block has to offer the format. I suppose given the power level of the block itself, that shouldn't be too surprising.
One creature I'd like to mention is Viseling. I have always had a soft spot for the guy. Black Vice is a pretty powerful card, but the fact that you have to target a single player has usually kept it out of most commander decks. Viseling hits all opponents though, and might be a pretty useful guy. Could be a nice punisher against those blue mega draw decks, and just be nice bonus damage against most other decks. It is certainly far from a staple card, but he might me worth it with certain game plans. I'm going to give him a try at least.
I also think a few of the flash auras might be worth giving a whirl, like Cho-Manno's Blessing, or Latulla's Orders.
blah classic is good for those who like it, and we are gaining new players each week. were doing just fine.
GW Hate is so hateful! Every single card is full of hate. Leonin Arbiter! Qasali Pridemage! Aven Mindcensor! Kataki! Can I please play my cards before you beat me down with 2/2s?? So Borken.
Why all the hating?
Aren't we free to play whatever we like? I'm most of a drafter myself, and got into classic because I wanted to play some constructed format that wouldn't force me to constantly buy and sell cards, as they rotate in and out of the format.
So my monthly process goes like: draft a lot, sell all the money cards, "store" those tix in classic staples, play classic DE's, rinse and repeat.
Classic is one of the most fun formats to play. You remember fun, don't you? It's what got us into this game in the first place?
So play whatever your heart desires, m8, I will do the same. For me that's classic goodness. For you? Whatever tickles your fancy.
Stop hating (or, if you want to keep on hating, build GW hate bears - truly a degenerate and combotastic classic deck - and join classic). We'll love to have a ranter back on the classic community. It's only nice guys here atm, we sure could use you!
Yes Classic is a small community where we all know each other and we're excited when we fire 3 events in a week. I just don't understand why you are so upset about that.
You can cry and cry about classic and the other formats not having event's firing, but people don't play them in numbers.
What do people do the most on MTGO? Draft. And when you draft, you play those cards in the format currently being played, which is Standard.
Can you show me a classic/legacy/modern DE that has more than the same 20-30 people? Then show me a ISD Block DE or STD DE that has less than a minimum 30 people.
You play, and you know the people that you are playing. Watch the VIDEOS ON THE DAMN SITE idiots. Every time you see a video, it's between people who know each other and are on each other's buddy list's unless they aren't really competitive format players.
Just look at the numbers above. Try to get into a tournament with more than 8 people on a daily basis. I would love to see it since it hasn't happened in a while. Maybe when Snappy first came out the Classic players wet their pants, but other than that, it's the same old cards I stopped playing with over 10 years ago.
And the money is equal? You can throw together a winning standard deck for $20. Look at Delver. The only card worth money is Snapcaster. And there is no "Jace" so the "best" deck, Ramp Run, or Mono-Red, or White(u) are either running Planeswalkers worth $20 or not running a planeswalker at all. The only expensive card in Ramp Run is Primeval Titan, and a lot of people have them if they have been playing for a year or so. The Thrun is a little expensive, but most people have them from drafting, or if they sold them, they are available from every bot in the system.
The Swords aren't cheap, but also aren't entirely necessary. But if I was to spend money on anything, it's the Swords because there will never be equipment as good as that ever again.
And you think my idea's are unfounded? Go play an 8 man tournament. Pay the 6 tix, and then sit there for hours waiting for 7 other people to join.
You can get all the 2 player games you want, but guess what, the prizes are hilarious.
You spend how much on these decks? And then you win packs of M12. That is hilarious. M12 packs are worthless. And the 8 man tournaments I think are the equivalent of a 4-3-2-2. They don't even get you packs of ISD, they give you packs that wont break even in cost.
If you play standard, you get ISD packs, and if you go 3-1, you get 6 packs of ISD, which is actually worth something because you can play in a sealed or a draft. M12 drafts fire about as much as a 2 man legacy match.
So let's see, if you want to build the Worlds winning STD deck, you need 80 tix approx. for Primeval Titan, and the rest will cost you 30 tix at the most. People who drafted SOM, and there was a lot of drafting, have the Inkmoth Nexus's or can get them cheap from another person. The rest of the deck is commons and 4 tix for Kessig Wolf Runs.
Delver of Secrets costs you, at the most, 40 tix.
So you can get Underground Sea's, or Build a STD deck. I think 99% of people would rather build a deck than just get lands.
And hey, I am so happy for you that you got the 16 people needed to get 2, and that is a big TWO, Classic DE's to fire. That is so nice for you. Sounds so exciting. I wonder how many events you joined until one actually started?
The same for the other 2 formats.
Guess what. You are the same people over, and over, and over and over. Guess what, nobody else shares your opinion but you and your in the closet boy toy Whiffy_FTW/Whiffy Penguin.
If you think that only 1% of people play the other 3 formats, then just look at the amounts of events and the amount of players in each one. Then you look at the names of the players in the formats. The same guy will never win the same daily twice in a week, while the same names will pop up in every classic/legacy/and modern DE.
Classic/Legacy/Modern players are like hoarders. You know those old people who have like a hundred cats in their house and loads of garbage? It's because they can't give up and can't move on. They are scared of new things and think they will lose their dominance. Well guess what. New things are better things. So enjoy your same 16 people, your same cards, your same decks, and your same "archetypes" (Just call them decks, that is what they are right?). I will gladly take my 1800+ Limited rating, my standard decks, and enjoy playing more than 8 man queues and 2 player 2 tix games.
It's not trolling when you are right. But I would say you are a troll since you are too scared to leave your favorite format because nobody else likes it. You remind me of the kid that sits in the back of the class and hates everyone else because they are "conformists" then you go home and play WOW. Have fun killing your ORC's and monsters, and hanging out with your virtual friends. I'll stick to playing Magic late at night during the week and during sports, and then hanging out with my girl at night. I think I win this one because you have no math to back you up, while I can just show you the DE #'s and you have nothing backing you up other than your virtual dual lands and ME1 Force of Wills. Get a girl, it might help you out. Too bad Friday Night Magic isn't a place to meet women, hence why I don't play on paper.
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Alternate is just trolling.
This post wins this month's award for the largest number of dumb and or patently false statements in a single post.
Hooray for talking out our asses about things we don't actually know anything about!!!
"Maybe less than 1%" is actually "I don't know what I'm talking about so I'll make some crap up and post it". You can find a competitive classic match almost all the time and the format has been firing at least 2 and sometimes up to 3 or 4 events a week for the last month or so. Even is cas/cas people play a lot of classic and even legacy. Your number is completely made up and easily invalidated by actually looking at MTGO for more than 3 seconds.
Then you go on to rant about cost. The reality is that keeping up with competitive standard for even a few years (especially in the age of mythics) will very quickly cost you the same as buying into Classic/Legacy/Modern. If you cant afford to play those formats, that's fine, but your spreading disinformation seems more like sour grapes than helpful insight. Some of us are adults with actual jobs and can afford to play non-standard formats.
3 and 5) Most serious classic decks dont even contain infinite combos of any kind. The only commonly played one is Vault/Key, and that deck will beat you within a few turns of assembling the combo anyway. The only classic deck that even has the possibility of doing anything even close to an "infinite" combo is Metalworker/Staff and that's not even close to a commonly played deck. The top decks are Oath, Workshop, Fish, Blue-based control, and Dredge...so WTF are you talking about???
On top of this, aside from the Workshop decks, playing first is not as big of an advantage as you make it seem because the format contains Force of Will and Mental Misstep. Have you ever actually played competitive classic? If not, please do us all a favor and shut up.
Oh and I believe I have mentioned this previously and was flamed mercilessly for it, but I'll say it again because you guys just-dont-get-it.
Maybe less than 1% of MTGO players are interested in playing Legacy, Modern, and Classic.
1) People like playing with the newest cards. People are attracted to new and shiny. You also have to understand that a lot of people joined MTGO after the main cards used in Legacy/Classic/and Modern came out, so they are not familiar with them. First hand experience, I quit over a decade ago and therefor missed out on like 10 blocks or so, I don't do math.
2) STD is more affordable than the other sets. I mean classic is extremely expensive. And for the other formats, the lands alone are a load of tickets.
3) Classic, Legacy, and Modern are based on who plays first and get's the first infinite combo. The only difference between Modern and Classic is that they create an unlimited combo in modern and then they ban it, and then someone creates another unlimited combo, wash, rinse, and repeat.
4) For people who want to play STD, you already have the cards needed for most decks. So why use a ton of tickets to buy Lands, and then you have to buy the cards, like Tarmogoyf or however you spell it, when you can spend that money and make an entire deck? I mean if you want to have a shot at going at least 3-1 in a STD DE, all you need is the lands you already have, the 4-5 tix for 3 Moorland haunts, the money for Snapcaster, which most people have and is going down in price, and you can put some Delver of Secrets + some other commons and you have a competitive Blue(w) Deck. Or you can do the same and make a deck like the White(blue) that where you don't even need to have Hero of Bladehold and can still win games using ISD block cards, or the white cards I told people to buy and you all laughed at me.
5) Infinite combo's are boring. I have watched videos of classic and it's "Step 1, play mana, step 2, play card, step 3, Draw your entire deck, step 3, win game unless you run out of time. Classic is won and lost more on the clock than games.
6) Get over it. There is a reason all the classic and legacy players know each other. It's because they are the only people playing the format online.
7) You can argue that a new deck has won. YIPPIE! The next day someone creates a way to beat that deck and you never hear from it again.
Now my idea for an interesting new idea for a format is something completely unfounded.
How about Two Headed Giant? You are paired with a random partner, and your opponent the same. Then you have the choice of only playing for yourself or helping your partner. You can also have you and your partner playing with completely incompatible or compatible decks and you won't know until you play. You are given a new partner for each round.
Is it any more random than drafting? I think it would add a dynamic that you guys might not like or fall in love with. It would also add more cards to the current lists because there are cards that can affect everyone, or nobody. That way if you are playing Delver and your opponent is playing Ramp Run, you can counter while your partner get's in the damage.
The only issue is infect, but if you can't deal with infect than you can't play in general.
The best part would be that it wouldn't be hard for them to implement, and would add things to the game that haven't been there before.