What happened was you screwed up the html so that each line has its own paragraph <p> tag. The fix is to open it in html editor mode and delete the extra tags. I also noted a few typos. A proofer would help you.
As you also say, the new extended is a format I started testing right after the announcement. I have now my M11 set review in my "to do next" list, but then it'll probably be something like "welcome to the new extended" or "the guide to the new extended".
I have a very nice deck that I'm still working on and that beats almost everything (almost!), but I must still learn how to fight fae; they're still really a big problem.
Keep Team Rocket out? Not quite. In fact one of your clan members is actually one of the nicest guys who attend and on of my favorite people to play/chat with on mtgo. Did we approve of the decks you brought? Not really, but mainly since the event was structured to be a very casual laid back environment, which admittedly, you had no idea. It was changed to make it more so, onyl to discourage those types of decks rather than players. Out of everyone in your clan I can say I don't really have a problem with any of you. Things may have gotten out of hand that day, but it was more frustration than anything. Me and Fiatlux were in a clan together before he knows I can be rather unreasonable and hot-headed at times. Overall I'm sorry you felt we became strictly anit-team rocket which was not the intention. It was more anti-tier 1 classic decks in a fun event than anything. All that said...I really hope this works out for you. The only prismatic I ever played was Pauper Prismatic Singleton so I doubt I would be able to keep up card-wise, but I do sincerely hope you guys succeed in adding a little more life to the online Prismatic Community. If I have that day free I may come show support by playing. I just apologize now to my partner in advance.
Yeah I have no problem seeing gluts of rares and mythics since it is a tournament column, though budget decks would be nice if they are possible. Like this weeks deck not much can really be done to budgetize it reasonably. But thats cool. Also an article about the upcoming extended may be quite awesome. Knowing you you are already thinking of decks for it.
Hypergenesis looks sexy and cheap and considering BYOS will soon be the only format I can play it in other than eternal ones, may be worth picking up, just for this event.
As you know, at its core Rogue Play is a weekly series of articles that tries to offer new approaches to the meta of the chosen format (since March 2007). Those so called "approaches" are always Tier 1,5 or Tier 2 at worst. This is actually what Rogue Play is all about and this week's installment was no different.
Card prices on the secondary market are of no concern for Rogue Play when offering ideas. Rogue Play's aim is NOT to come up with replacements for high priced cards in serious decks, but its actual aim is to come up with playable decks that can stand against the known Tier-1 decks of the format and beat them.
Of course there are some exceptions, such as last week, when Rogue Play offered cheap and fun decks for the Casual Room. Those exceptions are nice changes from the usual content and they are fun, but they are at the end exceptions. When Rogue Play talks about a format, it is mainly from a tournament player's perspective and the content is mainly for tournament players.
Rogue Play will continue to offer new approaches to the tournament players and other players who play/want to play powerful decks, and will try to come up with playable AND serious rogue decks in the future. This is how Rogue Play started back in March 2007 and this is how it will continue.
Having said these things, it also has to be said that like everything else, Rogue Play too must improve itself. There is ALWAYS room for improvement and nothing is perfect. In the future Rogue Play might include a "Now the budget/casual version of this week's deck" section so that the casual and/or budget readers may also enjoy Rogue Play.
Thanks once again for the comments (I mean it, they help me to get better).
that's a bit harsh, my moving on after seeing Jace isn't a judgement on the deck by any means it's more of a comment that I cannot afford to drop that much money on it... you know why they all use him? because he's just THAT good.. unfortunately this is what the game is... cards are expensive because they are good and put at a lower printing quantity... that's common sense and by no means an inflection on deck builders, why blame a person building the best deck they can for card price which is beyond their control?
Rogue doesn't mean cheap. Yeah sure Jace is mythic and expensive...but there are plenty of mythics that suck.. he sees play becasue he's good. Just like some commons see play because they are good. The percentage of rares in decks lately does not appear to have changed even if prices did. So you're bashing is fairly unfounded.
22 rares in the 2004 world championship
37 rares in this deck.
if you take out lands the rares change too
18 and 23 fairly close. If anything the level of rare lands have increased lately...not playable rares in total.
The anti-Eldrazi deck sounds like an interesting exercise. I think I would want to use Esper colors for it, with some good theft, sacrifice and mass destruction. I'll look into that for sure.
That's some rough criticism. LE plays on a different level. His idea of Rogue is what the pros wouldn't think of playing. To me that's rogue even if it does include some professional cards in it.
hermit druid deck could also fit in some flagstones of trokair quite nicely too, a good way of negating land loss. It would mean going into white, but white also has stp, mortefy, oring which would all work nicely in there.
agreed. When every tournement deck playing blue is based around the same card, its not only boring, its kinda sad.
I am waiting to see an original decklist (other than the ones i play) that is brave enough to not just toss in every expensive card, but instead actually uses creativity and imagination to do something new.
Unfortunately, since the advent of mythics/planeswalkers people just decide that money replaces skill in deckbuilding.
Its nothing personal against you erman, i know you are a good player, and a decent deckbuilder, but to call this a rogue deck is pathetic.
With all the Eldrazi being played in EDH ... how about brewing up an anit-Eldrazi deck?
I tried whipping one together real quick using UR ... steal and sacrifice type cards ... and stuff like Stifle/Trickbind ...looks like it could be fun ... but haven't gotten a chance to try it out yet.
What happened was you screwed up the html so that each line has its own paragraph <p> tag. The fix is to open it in html editor mode and delete the extra tags. I also noted a few typos. A proofer would help you.
I'll admit Im not the best drafter, but if you were short on playable, maybe sneak in the lava flume invoker? you are splashing red already
As you also say, the new extended is a format I started testing right after the announcement. I have now my M11 set review in my "to do next" list, but then it'll probably be something like "welcome to the new extended" or "the guide to the new extended".
I have a very nice deck that I'm still working on and that beats almost everything (almost!), but I must still learn how to fight fae; they're still really a big problem.
LE
Keep Team Rocket out? Not quite. In fact one of your clan members is actually one of the nicest guys who attend and on of my favorite people to play/chat with on mtgo. Did we approve of the decks you brought? Not really, but mainly since the event was structured to be a very casual laid back environment, which admittedly, you had no idea. It was changed to make it more so, onyl to discourage those types of decks rather than players. Out of everyone in your clan I can say I don't really have a problem with any of you. Things may have gotten out of hand that day, but it was more frustration than anything. Me and Fiatlux were in a clan together before he knows I can be rather unreasonable and hot-headed at times. Overall I'm sorry you felt we became strictly anit-team rocket which was not the intention. It was more anti-tier 1 classic decks in a fun event than anything. All that said...I really hope this works out for you. The only prismatic I ever played was Pauper Prismatic Singleton so I doubt I would be able to keep up card-wise, but I do sincerely hope you guys succeed in adding a little more life to the online Prismatic Community. If I have that day free I may come show support by playing. I just apologize now to my partner in advance.
Yeah I have no problem seeing gluts of rares and mythics since it is a tournament column, though budget decks would be nice if they are possible. Like this weeks deck not much can really be done to budgetize it reasonably. But thats cool. Also an article about the upcoming extended may be quite awesome. Knowing you you are already thinking of decks for it.
Hypergenesis looks sexy and cheap and considering BYOS will soon be the only format I can play it in other than eternal ones, may be worth picking up, just for this event.
Hi guys, thanks for the comments.
As you know, at its core Rogue Play is a weekly series of articles that tries to offer new approaches to the meta of the chosen format (since March 2007). Those so called "approaches" are always Tier 1,5 or Tier 2 at worst. This is actually what Rogue Play is all about and this week's installment was no different.
Card prices on the secondary market are of no concern for Rogue Play when offering ideas. Rogue Play's aim is NOT to come up with replacements for high priced cards in serious decks, but its actual aim is to come up with playable decks that can stand against the known Tier-1 decks of the format and beat them.
Of course there are some exceptions, such as last week, when Rogue Play offered cheap and fun decks for the Casual Room. Those exceptions are nice changes from the usual content and they are fun, but they are at the end exceptions. When Rogue Play talks about a format, it is mainly from a tournament player's perspective and the content is mainly for tournament players.
Rogue Play will continue to offer new approaches to the tournament players and other players who play/want to play powerful decks, and will try to come up with playable AND serious rogue decks in the future. This is how Rogue Play started back in March 2007 and this is how it will continue.
Having said these things, it also has to be said that like everything else, Rogue Play too must improve itself. There is ALWAYS room for improvement and nothing is perfect. In the future Rogue Play might include a "Now the budget/casual version of this week's deck" section so that the casual and/or budget readers may also enjoy Rogue Play.
Thanks once again for the comments (I mean it, they help me to get better).
LE
i think he was responding to him too
agreed, it was good and refreshing.
i think they were more responding to the dude right below you. ur comment was fine.
that's a bit harsh, my moving on after seeing Jace isn't a judgement on the deck by any means it's more of a comment that I cannot afford to drop that much money on it... you know why they all use him? because he's just THAT good.. unfortunately this is what the game is... cards are expensive because they are good and put at a lower printing quantity... that's common sense and by no means an inflection on deck builders, why blame a person building the best deck they can for card price which is beyond their control?
Rogue doesn't mean cheap. Yeah sure Jace is mythic and expensive...but there are plenty of mythics that suck.. he sees play becasue he's good. Just like some commons see play because they are good. The percentage of rares in decks lately does not appear to have changed even if prices did. So you're bashing is fairly unfounded.
22 rares in the 2004 world championship
37 rares in this deck.
if you take out lands the rares change too
18 and 23 fairly close. If anything the level of rare lands have increased lately...not playable rares in total.
I can get a Rith deck going as well.
The anti-Eldrazi deck sounds like an interesting exercise. I think I would want to use Esper colors for it, with some good theft, sacrifice and mass destruction. I'll look into that for sure.
That's some rough criticism. LE plays on a different level. His idea of Rogue is what the pros wouldn't think of playing. To me that's rogue even if it does include some professional cards in it.
i knew about insurrection but did not know that about grab the reins...i even run that card..smh
hermit druid deck could also fit in some flagstones of trokair quite nicely too, a good way of negating land loss. It would mean going into white, but white also has stp, mortefy, oring which would all work nicely in there.
There are some great steal effect that don't target: Insurrection, Grab the Reins, and Twist Allegiance.
Some other good cards are Bribery, Spelljack, Gather Specimens, and Desertion.
Timestop works as a 3rd stifle effect.
@ Paul ... yea Helm is great.
agreed. When every tournement deck playing blue is based around the same card, its not only boring, its kinda sad.
I am waiting to see an original decklist (other than the ones i play) that is brave enough to not just toss in every expensive card, but instead actually uses creativity and imagination to do something new.
Unfortunately, since the advent of mythics/planeswalkers people just decide that money replaces skill in deckbuilding.
Its nothing personal against you erman, i know you are a good player, and a decent deckbuilder, but to call this a rogue deck is pathetic.
Yes, "no mirror" section ignores mirror matches. It's just one more piece of information for people.
Excellent point. I missed that actually. There in fact was one MUC Fae in the top 8.
I guess the deck looks nice, but once i see Jace x4 I have to move on
Helm of Possession rocks. You can fabricate it etc.
I believe it is the decks record against the field not counting mirror matches. Mainly because all Mirror Matches are 50/50 at face value.
that sounds pretty interesting though its hard to stel an emrakul. You may want to add black for sacrifice effects. Edicts, Grave Pacts, Butchers...
With all the Eldrazi being played in EDH ... how about brewing up an anit-Eldrazi deck?
I tried whipping one together real quick using UR ... steal and sacrifice type cards ... and stuff like Stifle/Trickbind ...looks like it could be fun ... but haven't gotten a chance to try it out yet.