It's been awhile since I've seen an article of yours and you just happen to review one of my all time favourites. Fantastic read. And the videos are as always good.
chains is still bugged on mtgo, in comboination with certain cards. Discard to top of your library with Library of Leng, and the game goes nuts, into a super fast replay , then it completely restarts the game from scratch
Price? I guess it's more expensive than many decks, but it's still on the cheap side. I spent less than 80 tickets putting it together, and a lot of that includes staples like Maze of Ith, Sol Ring, etc that are useful in almost every deck.
Compared to the price of any deck containing a Primeval Titan, I still feel like it's on the cheap side. :)
This deck is like one of Charlie Sheen's Hookers. Pricy, but Sexy, and I would never play it. /end joke THe only reason I say I wouldnt play it though is because of the price otherwise it looks great. I have always wanted to do a near creatureless Commander deck. Mainly either Ashling, the Pilgrim or something in black with an extra two creatures of Maga, Traitor to Mortals and Graveborn Muse. But again very mean, though now eveyrone who reads this will be after you in the client lol
Wow ... that's a lot of content once again. I am sure i did not get half of the information you present here even though i was in the tournament myself. It is really nice to see what happend at the other ends of the tournament.
Excellent coverage there.
During the tournaments, and expecially near the end, I'm always so busy fighting the DCI-r, trading for prizes and giving instructions that I can't fully enjoy the matches "live", so I always wait for these articles to understand what exactly happened in the tournament :D
Hi Pete, I think your final list is missing 6 cards in the main deck and 2 in the sideboard.
Also the new White "Evil" Soul Sisters lady can be incredibly dangerous in the right deck. She's great in Limited where everybody plays creatures for starters. And she's a common and that means you can get more than one for your deck in drafts or in Sealed.
Also pair her with Blood Seeker in a WB Soul Sisters kind of deck in Standard, and watch the fun! That may not become a Tier-1 deck in Standard any time soon, but it will surely be enough to storm the Casual Room, trust me.
Apologies again for the sound quality on the commentated videos. Also, the audio appears to be out of sync on most of these videos. Both these issues I believe I've been able to sort out now but sadly not in time for submitting this article.
Future video content should be of a better quality.
You misunderstood my comment. I meant that maybe black/red is not good against these deck so thats why we don't see them in tournament. I had good result against storm, not that much against affinity but I need more practice.
Have you played against red/black sacrifice? What is you sidebord strategy?
No offence intended, but it sounds like stompy isn't your style if your losing to that. Once in a while with terrible flood etc.., maybe, but it shouldn't happen even 2 in 20 times.
TuorO - Did you read the article? Did you see the FIVE videos of me beating storm? How then after this can you conclude 'it's not good against storm?" It is good against everything... any deck can have the nuts (as written above) affinity is a great deck - but (AS WRITTEN ABOVE) it isn't a hard matchup for someone who pilots it well. Always close, but never a wipeout either way. If you want to beat stompy, play WW, Elves or MBC (again I wrote this above).
I think the first suggestion (do 2 times, then ask how many times and ask when to interrupt) is pretty cool and should not be too hard to implement.
The scripting for multiplayer is very hard though.. it may be easier to add audio-video support and play as you could play on a table:) that would be quite cool! I mean multiplayer games online are there for the fun of it so they may as well be less restricted in the rules, you just have begin turn-end turn, all the rest happens freely and you can communicate with voice to the table.
I know this is a really late reply, but that combo doesn't work. Exsanguinate doesn't deal damage, it directly causes life loss, so the Furnace won't double it.
Good to know, maybe I've been unlucky and didn't tried on real tournament yet. Maybe it's not good against afinity and storm so I will not encounter it when I'll do tournament
On the issue of which version to play: I'm kinda in the air too about them they all have their own strengths and weaknesses. And I think the biggest factor will be what meta game you expect.
Awesome vids. I kind of went on a Caw-blade video fest today. Viewed yours, Kibler's, and LSV's. It is interesting watching the different decisions each of you seem to take.
After watching the three different lists I still think that the UW version is probably the best. It may sacrifice some diversity, but I think it makes up for it in consistency.
I dont think I have ever played against the deck you mentioned. I have played 29 matches so far, and 21 wins (72%). I went 4-0 in todays daily - and I even defeated affinity (Shield of the Oversoul is key!).
Yes, I feel the same way too. It is interesting to note that some Vala decks are playing wall of tangle-cord as a sword spoiler and twisted image also ruins that as well, so we will see how the meta shifts from there.
I had two Rasputin builds myself.
One was an astral slide deck.
Other was an artifact ramp deck.
The ramp deck used Worldpurge as its fallback plan.
Currently working on that Celestial Kirin deck for fun.
it has some powerful interactions but has trouble setting up permanents like equipment/enchantments.
You spend a lot of time sweeping various CMC's.
For anyone else trying it out I'd like to mention that the most important cmc's to have a lot of spirits in are 2,3,5,6.
Take advantage of the lack of 0 cmc in the form of tokens and cheap artifacts.
Indestructible helps alot.
Nice to see another article on this deck and glad to see things went a little better for you this time out.
I agree with your doubts about Twisted Image in the sideboard, it does sometimes seem like dreaming a bit too big sometimes but I'm hardly one to argue with LSV. I suppose it depends what decks you are planning to come up against. It certainly worked well on those Overgrown Battlements in Round 3, and a 1 mana cantrip kill spell for a Steppe Linx against Boros is probably pretty nice too.
It's been awhile since I've seen an article of yours and you just happen to review one of my all time favourites. Fantastic read. And the videos are as always good.
I guess so, but I was looking at some of the cards and 6.74 just for anvil i was like wow...but it is certainly cheaper than primeval or jace
chains is still bugged on mtgo, in comboination with certain cards. Discard to top of your library with Library of Leng, and the game goes nuts, into a super fast replay , then it completely restarts the game from scratch
Price? I guess it's more expensive than many decks, but it's still on the cheap side. I spent less than 80 tickets putting it together, and a lot of that includes staples like Maze of Ith, Sol Ring, etc that are useful in almost every deck.
Compared to the price of any deck containing a Primeval Titan, I still feel like it's on the cheap side. :)
This deck is like one of Charlie Sheen's Hookers. Pricy, but Sexy, and I would never play it. /end joke THe only reason I say I wouldnt play it though is because of the price otherwise it looks great. I have always wanted to do a near creatureless Commander deck. Mainly either Ashling, the Pilgrim or something in black with an extra two creatures of Maga, Traitor to Mortals and Graveborn Muse. But again very mean, though now eveyrone who reads this will be after you in the client lol
Excellent coverage, Olaw. Great to see the coverage that you do. Thanks!
Wow ... that's a lot of content once again. I am sure i did not get half of the information you present here even though i was in the tournament myself. It is really nice to see what happend at the other ends of the tournament.
Excellent coverage there.
During the tournaments, and expecially near the end, I'm always so busy fighting the DCI-r, trading for prizes and giving instructions that I can't fully enjoy the matches "live", so I always wait for these articles to understand what exactly happened in the tournament :D
Hi Pete, I think your final list is missing 6 cards in the main deck and 2 in the sideboard.
Also the new White "Evil" Soul Sisters lady can be incredibly dangerous in the right deck. She's great in Limited where everybody plays creatures for starters. And she's a common and that means you can get more than one for your deck in drafts or in Sealed.
Also pair her with Blood Seeker in a WB Soul Sisters kind of deck in Standard, and watch the fun! That may not become a Tier-1 deck in Standard any time soon, but it will surely be enough to storm the Casual Room, trust me.
LE
Apologies again for the sound quality on the commentated videos. Also, the audio appears to be out of sync on most of these videos. Both these issues I believe I've been able to sort out now but sadly not in time for submitting this article.
Future video content should be of a better quality.
Lotus Farmers think your next guest should be Timmins talking about his 4color fish deck.
Scripts seem like the thin end of the wedge for playing bots.
You misunderstood my comment. I meant that maybe black/red is not good against these deck so thats why we don't see them in tournament. I had good result against storm, not that much against affinity but I need more practice.
Have you played against red/black sacrifice? What is you sidebord strategy?
No offence intended, but it sounds like stompy isn't your style if your losing to that. Once in a while with terrible flood etc.., maybe, but it shouldn't happen even 2 in 20 times.
TuorO - Did you read the article? Did you see the FIVE videos of me beating storm? How then after this can you conclude 'it's not good against storm?" It is good against everything... any deck can have the nuts (as written above) affinity is a great deck - but (AS WRITTEN ABOVE) it isn't a hard matchup for someone who pilots it well. Always close, but never a wipeout either way. If you want to beat stompy, play WW, Elves or MBC (again I wrote this above).
I think the first suggestion (do 2 times, then ask how many times and ask when to interrupt) is pretty cool and should not be too hard to implement.
The scripting for multiplayer is very hard though.. it may be easier to add audio-video support and play as you could play on a table:) that would be quite cool! I mean multiplayer games online are there for the fun of it so they may as well be less restricted in the rules, you just have begin turn-end turn, all the rest happens freely and you can communicate with voice to the table.
I know this is a really late reply, but that combo doesn't work. Exsanguinate doesn't deal damage, it directly causes life loss, so the Furnace won't double it.
Good to know, maybe I've been unlucky and didn't tried on real tournament yet. Maybe it's not good against afinity and storm so I will not encounter it when I'll do tournament
Thank you both for the review.
On the issue of which version to play: I'm kinda in the air too about them they all have their own strengths and weaknesses. And I think the biggest factor will be what meta game you expect.
Awesome vids. I kind of went on a Caw-blade video fest today. Viewed yours, Kibler's, and LSV's. It is interesting watching the different decisions each of you seem to take.
After watching the three different lists I still think that the UW version is probably the best. It may sacrifice some diversity, but I think it makes up for it in consistency.
Keep up the good work!
I dont think I have ever played against the deck you mentioned. I have played 29 matches so far, and 21 wins (72%). I went 4-0 in todays daily - and I even defeated affinity (Shield of the Oversoul is key!).
Regards
It's very nice to be able to follow the little shifts of this deck's build, especially when they get to be piloted so well.
Great work again, Agur! :)
Yes, I feel the same way too. It is interesting to note that some Vala decks are playing wall of tangle-cord as a sword spoiler and twisted image also ruins that as well, so we will see how the meta shifts from there.
I had two Rasputin builds myself.
One was an astral slide deck.
Other was an artifact ramp deck.
The ramp deck used Worldpurge as its fallback plan.
Currently working on that Celestial Kirin deck for fun.
it has some powerful interactions but has trouble setting up permanents like equipment/enchantments.
You spend a lot of time sweeping various CMC's.
For anyone else trying it out I'd like to mention that the most important cmc's to have a lot of spirits in are 2,3,5,6.
Take advantage of the lack of 0 cmc in the form of tokens and cheap artifacts.
Indestructible helps alot.
Nice to see another article on this deck and glad to see things went a little better for you this time out.
I agree with your doubts about Twisted Image in the sideboard, it does sometimes seem like dreaming a bit too big sometimes but I'm hardly one to argue with LSV. I suppose it depends what decks you are planning to come up against. It certainly worked well on those Overgrown Battlements in Round 3, and a 1 mana cantrip kill spell for a Steppe Linx against Boros is probably pretty nice too.