Yea, i loved this. It was like looking through the eyes of 15 year old george again.
One small problem i had though. If you are piloting both decks, and you have ghost quarter, why not treat it as a wasteland? its the perfect storm for a proxy effect in modo.
This makes me want to do my 4x flash 4x vamp, vs 4x necro 4x demonic consultation article even more.
Probably drafters. If you get knocked out in round 2, you get one Stronghold and one Exodus pack, so you have to buy the Tempest pack. That pushes the demand for Tempest. (On the other hand, Tempest packs are for sale in the store for $3.99 - this week at least.)
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of foil cards (I even turned off foil animation) if not for their value increase, so I'm just happy with non-foil cards and usually set up for trade the foil versions if I have a non-foil playset. I've noticed that the bot would often pick those even if it wouldn't pick non-foil versions of the same card (I've done a bit of experimenting... I was bored XD ).
For the petal, well, time to start an affinity pauper deck :/
As for the booster price I'm a bit surprised... MTGO online store is selling them for regular price; it's true they don't accept tixes. I've done a bit of research now before answering and my normal booster "dealers" all are out of stock for Tempest but I've seen classifields ads selling them for 5 tixes.
Really??? I've had foils for years that no bot will touch except for fractional pennies which makes no sense to me (no pun intended.)
As far as the lotus petals not selling goes, I'm pretty sure there has been a glut of old set staples lately due to old sets being very frequently drafted since December. I know that cards like Tradewind Riders and Living Death which were medium ticket items are now much more affordable. So, good news for casual buyers and bad news for old set drafters.
As we have no idea how long wizards plans to flood the market with old set drafts it is hard to predict how far down the pack EVs will drop. Though I imagine if you hold your spoils for a few months this may change for the better.
But strangely someone was just complaining how TE packs were going for 7 tix+ and also were out of stock on the bots so that's some confusing data there.
Well, never had any problems selling foils till now :(
I used to sell even those foil commons and uncommons that were lingering in my collection just to make some more cents.
Now suddenly I'm not able to sell a foil marsh flats and a foil phyrexian crusader. I had to sell them in the auction room or in the trade room...
On a side note: no one seems to be interested in lotus petals anymore too :( These old formats are losing their EV by the minute...
Oh yeah, sorry, it was supposed to say withOUT being an artifact. In the forums I follow I'd seen a fair amount of chatter about the splicers replacing master's call etc for Shape Anew. But seeing as how we're not even seeing Inkmoth Nexuses being used for this, I'm not sure if there's a home outside casual play. And with all the tumble magnets and JTMS in STD I'm not sure that cheating a blightsteel into play is build-around worthy anyway.
The most important thing about the splicers is that they generate an artifact with being an artifact. We can expect to see a fair amount of turn 4 Blightsteels thanks to this guy. Dunno if it's tournament worthy, but it's a solid combo.
Good Article. At the end of the video you played E Tutor out of the end step, usually wait for end step unless Counterbalance needs to counter opponents spells. Your opponent played a Pridemage after seeing you reveal Swword off Tutor, the sequence should have been wait for him to play Pride then play Tutor to counter it and assemble Sword+Thopter.
Ah. Having a fairly complex collection from ages of collecting commons/uncommons/junk rares etc I never seem to have THAT problem. The problem I usually face is not wanting to part with the cards that are hottest.
Also afaik Mtgo traders does not do a lot of foil purchasing. Foils are a volatile market to begin with and unless it's a super high end card the chances are it is over valued. I don't know the particulars so it just might be that Phyrexian/Mirran Crusaders tend to be fully stocked? I would ask Heath himself if you have questions regarding his bots.
Yeah, thanks for the explanation; it makes sense and I eventually figured it out; it's just a bit frustrating having a 5 tixes card (the foil phyrexian crusader I mentioned in the last post) and not being able to cash it to draft more.
I will try and look for the existing supply too when evaluating a money-pick in a draft.
I was referring to the buybot, sorry.
About my collection it's very difficult to get distracted by anything; I'm a limited player so I sell every money card to do more drafts/sealed :)
Anyway it's happening a lot lately, I had a foil phyrexian crusader the other day but the buybot wouldn't buy it no matter what :( I had to sell it privately (to a human player) after a couple of days to get a few tixes.
The same went for the myrran counterpart and the price of progress...
It's getting difficult to evaluate money-drafting lately basing on MTGOtraders prices :(
Make sure to try out the hotlist. www.mtgotraders.com/hotlist/ The bots only buy cards that are in demand so if a card is cooling off and a lot of people are dumping them then the bot quits buying them until the price settles. The hotlist pays more but only buys cards we have less than 4 of on the site. Hope that helps explain things a little.
I have not had any luck with the buy bot lately. I used to be able to go to it every day and it would pick up a few cards for a few pennies. After a while it would add up to a ticket. Now it's not taking anything, the penny commons or the 2 tix uncommons.
We've already confirmed that NPH will *not* be released online early. It is a non-trivial matter to move the release date so late in the game. Also, while beta opened early, you could tell it was early: there were more bugs at opening than we've seen in many sets. The early beta didn't really change the beta production schedule, it just allowed testers to see it at an earlier point.
Great read, thanks again for the time and effort.
Then I'd like to point a thing out on the EV of TE and MI block sealed. While I absolutely agree on the fact that the sealed are better than drafts, I think that despite the mere money value being in favor of MI block, one should also note the sheer number of money uncommons of the TE block makes it a lot more potentially rewarding than MI.
In MI block you basically have to open a rare to get some value (with the exception of the Mirage tutors) while in TE there are some nice uncommons that will make a decent amout of money AND the highest price card is an uncommon itself. It's true that the highest money card of MI block is worth 2 times the highest TE block one, but the latter has 3 times the probability to show up in any event than the former.
On a side note: unfortunately MTGOtraders is not buying Price of Progress right now so my above statements may be a little off, I won't be surprised if they didn't buy other uncommons too... (well they're not buying Mirran Crusader also which is a rare, but you got the point).
Is it seriously worth paying $100 for rare, $50 for uncommon, and $5 for common singles? Is it really worth it? I mean, damn, when Cursed Scroll was a $17 Standard card back in the day, I remember being pretty satisfied buying a box and cracking 1 plus some other nice rares and uncommons I needed.
not that it would happen, but your god packs "EV" (which i like to see in print) are you counting tempest intuition plus wasteland AND foil wasteland??
i know it happens to me all the time cracking packs like that...
Yea, i loved this. It was like looking through the eyes of 15 year old george again.
One small problem i had though. If you are piloting both decks, and you have ghost quarter, why not treat it as a wasteland? its the perfect storm for a proxy effect in modo.
This makes me want to do my 4x flash 4x vamp, vs 4x necro 4x demonic consultation article even more.
Very plausible, the sealed events don't fire :(
Probably drafters. If you get knocked out in round 2, you get one Stronghold and one Exodus pack, so you have to buy the Tempest pack. That pushes the demand for Tempest. (On the other hand, Tempest packs are for sale in the store for $3.99 - this week at least.)
Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of foil cards (I even turned off foil animation) if not for their value increase, so I'm just happy with non-foil cards and usually set up for trade the foil versions if I have a non-foil playset. I've noticed that the bot would often pick those even if it wouldn't pick non-foil versions of the same card (I've done a bit of experimenting... I was bored XD ).
For the petal, well, time to start an affinity pauper deck :/
As for the booster price I'm a bit surprised... MTGO online store is selling them for regular price; it's true they don't accept tixes. I've done a bit of research now before answering and my normal booster "dealers" all are out of stock for Tempest but I've seen classifields ads selling them for 5 tixes.
Really??? I've had foils for years that no bot will touch except for fractional pennies which makes no sense to me (no pun intended.)
As far as the lotus petals not selling goes, I'm pretty sure there has been a glut of old set staples lately due to old sets being very frequently drafted since December. I know that cards like Tradewind Riders and Living Death which were medium ticket items are now much more affordable. So, good news for casual buyers and bad news for old set drafters.
As we have no idea how long wizards plans to flood the market with old set drafts it is hard to predict how far down the pack EVs will drop. Though I imagine if you hold your spoils for a few months this may change for the better.
But strangely someone was just complaining how TE packs were going for 7 tix+ and also were out of stock on the bots so that's some confusing data there.
Well, never had any problems selling foils till now :(
I used to sell even those foil commons and uncommons that were lingering in my collection just to make some more cents.
Now suddenly I'm not able to sell a foil marsh flats and a foil phyrexian crusader. I had to sell them in the auction room or in the trade room...
On a side note: no one seems to be interested in lotus petals anymore too :( These old formats are losing their EV by the minute...
Oh yeah, sorry, it was supposed to say withOUT being an artifact. In the forums I follow I'd seen a fair amount of chatter about the splicers replacing master's call etc for Shape Anew. But seeing as how we're not even seeing Inkmoth Nexuses being used for this, I'm not sure if there's a home outside casual play. And with all the tumble magnets and JTMS in STD I'm not sure that cheating a blightsteel into play is build-around worthy anyway.
The most important thing about the splicers is that they generate an artifact with being an artifact. We can expect to see a fair amount of turn 4 Blightsteels thanks to this guy. Dunno if it's tournament worthy, but it's a solid combo.
EDIT: withOUT being an artifact :)
Good Article. At the end of the video you played E Tutor out of the end step, usually wait for end step unless Counterbalance needs to counter opponents spells. Your opponent played a Pridemage after seeing you reveal Swword off Tutor, the sequence should have been wait for him to play Pride then play Tutor to counter it and assemble Sword+Thopter.
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Ah. Having a fairly complex collection from ages of collecting commons/uncommons/junk rares etc I never seem to have THAT problem. The problem I usually face is not wanting to part with the cards that are hottest.
Also afaik Mtgo traders does not do a lot of foil purchasing. Foils are a volatile market to begin with and unless it's a super high end card the chances are it is over valued. I don't know the particulars so it just might be that Phyrexian/Mirran Crusaders tend to be fully stocked? I would ask Heath himself if you have questions regarding his bots.
Yeah, thanks for the explanation; it makes sense and I eventually figured it out; it's just a bit frustrating having a 5 tixes card (the foil phyrexian crusader I mentioned in the last post) and not being able to cash it to draft more.
I will try and look for the existing supply too when evaluating a money-pick in a draft.
I was referring to the buybot, sorry.
About my collection it's very difficult to get distracted by anything; I'm a limited player so I sell every money card to do more drafts/sealed :)
Anyway it's happening a lot lately, I had a foil phyrexian crusader the other day but the buybot wouldn't buy it no matter what :( I had to sell it privately (to a human player) after a couple of days to get a few tixes.
The same went for the myrran counterpart and the price of progress...
It's getting difficult to evaluate money-drafting lately basing on MTGOtraders prices :(
I have not had any luck with the buy bot lately. I used to be able to go to it every day and it would pick up a few cards for a few pennies. After a while it would add up to a ticket. Now it's not taking anything, the penny commons or the 2 tix uncommons.
The buy bot might as long as it doesn't get distracted by other cards in your collection.
Good point.
Stronghold resells to bots for 6 or so :)
We've already confirmed that NPH will *not* be released online early. It is a non-trivial matter to move the release date so late in the game. Also, while beta opened early, you could tell it was early: there were more bugs at opening than we've seen in many sets. The early beta didn't really change the beta production schedule, it just allowed testers to see it at an earlier point.
Great read, thanks again for the time and effort.
Then I'd like to point a thing out on the EV of TE and MI block sealed. While I absolutely agree on the fact that the sealed are better than drafts, I think that despite the mere money value being in favor of MI block, one should also note the sheer number of money uncommons of the TE block makes it a lot more potentially rewarding than MI.
In MI block you basically have to open a rare to get some value (with the exception of the Mirage tutors) while in TE there are some nice uncommons that will make a decent amout of money AND the highest price card is an uncommon itself. It's true that the highest money card of MI block is worth 2 times the highest TE block one, but the latter has 3 times the probability to show up in any event than the former.
On a side note: unfortunately MTGOtraders is not buying Price of Progress right now so my above statements may be a little off, I won't be surprised if they didn't buy other uncommons too... (well they're not buying Mirran Crusader also which is a rare, but you got the point).
The Wizards post said the Tempest and Mirage 4 round sealed events would be in the Premier event room, but they are actually in the Daily room.
Played in one - went 3-1 for enough product to play in another, but the only "money card" was a Lotus Petal. Plus a Volrath's Stronghold just for fun.
Inflation + power creep + availability have changed a lot since then.
Is it seriously worth paying $100 for rare, $50 for uncommon, and $5 for common singles? Is it really worth it? I mean, damn, when Cursed Scroll was a $17 Standard card back in the day, I remember being pretty satisfied buying a box and cracking 1 plus some other nice rares and uncommons I needed.
P.S. Nice article!
Adding a high-cost foil to the mix makes the odds of getting that pack a bit too high. :)
thanks for the article.
not that it would happen, but your god packs "EV" (which i like to see in print) are you counting tempest intuition plus wasteland AND foil wasteland??
i know it happens to me all the time cracking packs like that...