Ive got maybe a little over half your collection size Pete and I don't have a problem building all the time. Sometimes the client memory leaks and that can cause everything to go slowly. additionally trades tend to load very slowly but the only time the editor lags is when I set the quantity slider to 0 owned.
Haha, okay I maybe should have refined that one a little, lol :-) You could probably park a Phyrexian Crusader on the field indefinitely if you dodge AJ_Impy's decks.
edit: btw, while on the topic, I will have a very cool new deckbuilding challenge coming up, I may need to bounce ideas off you for implementation though, I want it to be progressive through a few different challenges with escalating prizes.
Tell you what, submit that as an achievement. (I've already got credit for one.) Have a creature survive four turns. See how many folk qualify for it. I'd wager 'lots'.
My chest would be too heavy, Id have to store all of them. It is amazing how many players do not run mass removal and or can't deal with indestructible, etc.
A very valid point, and one I hadn't really been considering. The new players coming in, for them, the new forums/mothership is all they know. And you're right, my bitterness towards the loss of was before shouldn't be my primary focus. Just because I choose not to participate in the forums/mothership, I shouldn't discourage others from trying to rekindle that je ne c'est quoi. I'll try to watch it.
I think the WotC twitter thing is somewhat of a success. And I am sure WotC think so as well? They have 10K followers and a host of active users with whom they interact. The interaction is even more swift than back in the good old forum days. You are part of that success. I don't see that as a bad thing.
If you want other platforms to succeed as well, then participation is key. For example, the forums are certainly usable. Look at longtimegone, he is posting there on a daily basis. Is he a [REDACTED] fool? Would adaption to twitter and a boycott of the forums be more instrumental in building the MTGO community? Maybe.
You are without doubt a pillar of the MTGO community. I get your bitterness towards WotC. But keep in mind that the [REDACTED] comments about how the community is non-existing, is to some degree also condescending towards other players trying their best to build a (new?) MTGO community.
That's interesting. Hex Parasite was obvious since day 1, of course. And Wheel of Sun and Moon was seen in certain casual Pod builds (including one of mine), but of course it felt overkill there, may be better with Yisan. The Wheel is a beautiful card in all senses, and versatile enough to have a room in main deck.
I guess there are a number of combos you can set up with Yisan. Hell, once you get to 4 and then 5 counters, you've set up Resto/Kiki. I'd like for Yisan to have his own stuff, though, rather than just trying to do the same things the Pod does.
I ran into a Modern build with Yisan the other day that used Hex Parasite to adjust the number of counters on Yisan. It used Wheel of Sun and Moon on itself so even if creatures died, they just went back into the deck to be re-tutored. It then set up a soft lock of Magus of the Disk + Dauntless Escort to wipe all other permanents off the board.
I know that's a lot of different Tribes, but I thought I'd share the concept!
The problem is he isn't pod and doesn't play like pod. To use Yisan properly you need to remember at the top of the curve he does nothing anymore so he has limited uses unless you find a way to reset the counters or sac him or return him to your hand.
This is a topic that I have thought about at length, and you've got a very interesting angle.
I would argue that there actually in no "glue" card in the sense that Force of Will, and to a lesser extent Daze, are glue cards in Legacy. While the actual "physics" of the game start to break down in legacy (turn one combo kills, attacking and blocking less relevant, maindecked hate cards due to skewed metagame, lack of viability of traditional control strategies), and therefore need a glue to prevent them from breaking, Modern is kept from breaking by a more aggressive policy on bans and a naturally occuring "more normal" metagame where creature decks are amongst the most viable.
For instance, it is hard to argue that lightning bolt holds the format together, as it's existence holds back fair decks (Wild Nacatl, Dark Confidant ect), and interacts poorly with the most degenerate decks, such as Storm and Reanimator.
I've explained my thoughts more fully in the introduction an article I wrote earlier this year, "A Look at Modern Polymorph". I'd love to hear your thoughts! Again, this was a really good, economical read.
Yes this is the problem really. Community on MTGO isn't dead. It is dispersed. Diluted too. But mainly split apart and spread out and if you want to interact and get involved you can but you can't easily get the attention of those not also already keyed into trying to be a community. It used to be much easier to bring people into the fold so to speak. To engage in conversation and games without striving. Now one must work at it and all because WOTC felt it was not important enough to keep the features that glued the community together.
It's not entirely their fault. People have died, moved away from MTGO, moved away from being involved, moved away from MTG entirely. But it is their decisions that have formed the basis for how difficult community online is these days.
No, I don't get what I give. I've been giving my entire life, and look where it's gotten me: exiled, broke, & alone. And I'm still giving. So don't try to pack my bags on that particular guilt trip, send me money instead.
I *am* embracing this new paradigm. Obviously. That doesn't mean I can't bemoan the loss of what came before, and gripe how I think the world is turning to [REDACTED]. Evolution happens.
As far as what I miss? That's a hard one to pin down. I miss the multi-player room, for one thing. (MP took a hard hit with that one.) I miss being able to see at glance which of my buddies are in the play lobby when I enter. I miss clans meaning something. I miss usable forums. Now I miss a usable mothership, too.
All of this has been gobbled up into the Twitterverse. I'm there, too, trying to adapt. But the "feel" of the gestalt is not the same as what it was. It feels much more "diluted".
You seem to love the twitterverse as judged by the frequency of your tweets. If you miss anything about what used to be the MTGO community then why not do something about it? At least the WotC staff seems to be easily accessible through twitter. What specific part of the MTGO community is it that you miss and which you can do nothing about? You get what you give and if you like to use twitter then why not embrace it?
And I really liked it back then and I always wanted to play with a version of it one day. This year, I'm mostly approaching to my tribal deck builds differently and that's why I have decided to try more interesting decks like Scouts... I also improved my first version by adding Primeval Titan after your comments about it.
I like Selvala there but land base with Plains subtype ruined the first version. I want to splash her in some other decks but Yisan seems more promising then her at 3 CMC range with his fetching ability. All I can do for now, is to honor her name in the deck title...
Appreciated. Found an NPR story dated August 21st which goes over the figures in more detail. What concerns me is, of the outsiders arrested, 'Most were taken in for simply not dispersing when police ordered them to.'
KMOX St. Louis in an online story dated August 19th.
93% of all people arrested in Ferguson (up to that point) were not from Ferguson and 27% weren't even from Missouri.
I have zero doubts about what you said. There are cops who won't take any backtalk at all. They say move, you better move while you still can. I worked with a guy they called Flashlight because he carried a big Maglite and wasn't afraid to use it.
You'd be amazed at the verbal abuse police officers get and when the wrong guy says the wrong thing at the wrong time they will snap.
Ferguson turned into a powder keg. A lot of outside agitators came in and whipped up a frenzy. Add in looters that came in from places like Oakland, Chicago, and New York City and you get a very volatile situation. Notice that almost of the arrested people were from outside Ferguson, including Billy Moreno.
Ive got maybe a little over half your collection size Pete and I don't have a problem building all the time. Sometimes the client memory leaks and that can cause everything to go slowly. additionally trades tend to load very slowly but the only time the editor lags is when I set the quantity slider to 0 owned.
Haha, okay I maybe should have refined that one a little, lol :-) You could probably park a Phyrexian Crusader on the field indefinitely if you dodge AJ_Impy's decks.
edit: btw, while on the topic, I will have a very cool new deckbuilding challenge coming up, I may need to bounce ideas off you for implementation though, I want it to be progressive through a few different challenges with escalating prizes.
Done. The achievement is #46, "RexDart's Medal".
Tell you what, submit that as an achievement. (I've already got credit for one.) Have a creature survive four turns. See how many folk qualify for it. I'd wager 'lots'.
My chest would be too heavy, Id have to store all of them. It is amazing how many players do not run mass removal and or can't deal with indestructible, etc.
If you have a creature live for four turns in Tribal Wars, you should get a medal.
Don't forget Power Conduit to turn those useless verse counters into +1/+1's, or proliferate to ramp up the counters (eg Tezzeret's Gambit)
A very valid point, and one I hadn't really been considering. The new players coming in, for them, the new forums/mothership is all they know. And you're right, my bitterness towards the loss of was before shouldn't be my primary focus. Just because I choose not to participate in the forums/mothership, I shouldn't discourage others from trying to rekindle that je ne c'est quoi. I'll try to watch it.
I like your answer, Blippy.
I think the WotC twitter thing is somewhat of a success. And I am sure WotC think so as well? They have 10K followers and a host of active users with whom they interact. The interaction is even more swift than back in the good old forum days. You are part of that success. I don't see that as a bad thing.
If you want other platforms to succeed as well, then participation is key. For example, the forums are certainly usable. Look at longtimegone, he is posting there on a daily basis. Is he a [REDACTED] fool? Would adaption to twitter and a boycott of the forums be more instrumental in building the MTGO community? Maybe.
You are without doubt a pillar of the MTGO community. I get your bitterness towards WotC. But keep in mind that the [REDACTED] comments about how the community is non-existing, is to some degree also condescending towards other players trying their best to build a (new?) MTGO community.
That's interesting. Hex Parasite was obvious since day 1, of course. And Wheel of Sun and Moon was seen in certain casual Pod builds (including one of mine), but of course it felt overkill there, may be better with Yisan. The Wheel is a beautiful card in all senses, and versatile enough to have a room in main deck.
I guess there are a number of combos you can set up with Yisan. Hell, once you get to 4 and then 5 counters, you've set up Resto/Kiki. I'd like for Yisan to have his own stuff, though, rather than just trying to do the same things the Pod does.
I've always thought that "you get what you give" would be more accurate if merged somehow with "if you don't play you can't win".
That's pretty brilliant :) I want a list please. :D
I ran into a Modern build with Yisan the other day that used Hex Parasite to adjust the number of counters on Yisan. It used Wheel of Sun and Moon on itself so even if creatures died, they just went back into the deck to be re-tutored. It then set up a soft lock of Magus of the Disk + Dauntless Escort to wipe all other permanents off the board.
I know that's a lot of different Tribes, but I thought I'd share the concept!
- Gio
The problem is he isn't pod and doesn't play like pod. To use Yisan properly you need to remember at the top of the curve he does nothing anymore so he has limited uses unless you find a way to reset the counters or sac him or return him to your hand.
Still love him though. Awesome card for Timmy...
This is a topic that I have thought about at length, and you've got a very interesting angle.
I would argue that there actually in no "glue" card in the sense that Force of Will, and to a lesser extent Daze, are glue cards in Legacy. While the actual "physics" of the game start to break down in legacy (turn one combo kills, attacking and blocking less relevant, maindecked hate cards due to skewed metagame, lack of viability of traditional control strategies), and therefore need a glue to prevent them from breaking, Modern is kept from breaking by a more aggressive policy on bans and a naturally occuring "more normal" metagame where creature decks are amongst the most viable.
For instance, it is hard to argue that lightning bolt holds the format together, as it's existence holds back fair decks (Wild Nacatl, Dark Confidant ect), and interacts poorly with the most degenerate decks, such as Storm and Reanimator.
I've explained my thoughts more fully in the introduction an article I wrote earlier this year, "A Look at Modern Polymorph". I'd love to hear your thoughts! Again, this was a really good, economical read.
I honestly always found strange that nobody had ever played Valakut Scout afterwards. I might bring it back, too!
I keep looking at Yisan in my collection, and I want to play him, but I'm still not exactly sure it won't be a lame "I wish I was Birthing Pod" build.
It turns out the FNMs were listed as 'Magic' because Tramps forgot to pay monthly "FNM Dues" (huh?) for August.
September FNMs should be fine.
Yes this is the problem really. Community on MTGO isn't dead. It is dispersed. Diluted too. But mainly split apart and spread out and if you want to interact and get involved you can but you can't easily get the attention of those not also already keyed into trying to be a community. It used to be much easier to bring people into the fold so to speak. To engage in conversation and games without striving. Now one must work at it and all because WOTC felt it was not important enough to keep the features that glued the community together.
It's not entirely their fault. People have died, moved away from MTGO, moved away from being involved, moved away from MTG entirely. But it is their decisions that have formed the basis for how difficult community online is these days.
No, I don't get what I give. I've been giving my entire life, and look where it's gotten me: exiled, broke, & alone. And I'm still giving. So don't try to pack my bags on that particular guilt trip, send me money instead.
I *am* embracing this new paradigm. Obviously. That doesn't mean I can't bemoan the loss of what came before, and gripe how I think the world is turning to [REDACTED]. Evolution happens.
As far as what I miss? That's a hard one to pin down. I miss the multi-player room, for one thing. (MP took a hard hit with that one.) I miss being able to see at glance which of my buddies are in the play lobby when I enter. I miss clans meaning something. I miss usable forums. Now I miss a usable mothership, too.
All of this has been gobbled up into the Twitterverse. I'm there, too, trying to adapt. But the "feel" of the gestalt is not the same as what it was. It feels much more "diluted".
You seem to love the twitterverse as judged by the frequency of your tweets. If you miss anything about what used to be the MTGO community then why not do something about it? At least the WotC staff seems to be easily accessible through twitter. What specific part of the MTGO community is it that you miss and which you can do nothing about? You get what you give and if you like to use twitter then why not embrace it?
My current Scout deck is following your footsteps Kuma. I remember our game for the first place on May, 2012 where you were playing with a Scout deck. http://puremtgo.com/articles/diaries-apocalypse-tribal-weeks-68-69
And I really liked it back then and I always wanted to play with a version of it one day. This year, I'm mostly approaching to my tribal deck builds differently and that's why I have decided to try more interesting decks like Scouts... I also improved my first version by adding Primeval Titan after your comments about it.
I like Selvala there but land base with Plains subtype ruined the first version. I want to splash her in some other decks but Yisan seems more promising then her at 3 CMC range with his fetching ability. All I can do for now, is to honor her name in the deck title...
Appreciated. Found an NPR story dated August 21st which goes over the figures in more detail. What concerns me is, of the outsiders arrested, 'Most were taken in for simply not dispersing when police ordered them to.'
KMOX St. Louis in an online story dated August 19th.
93% of all people arrested in Ferguson (up to that point) were not from Ferguson and 27% weren't even from Missouri.
Cite please on the local/external arrest figures.
I have zero doubts about what you said. There are cops who won't take any backtalk at all. They say move, you better move while you still can. I worked with a guy they called Flashlight because he carried a big Maglite and wasn't afraid to use it.
You'd be amazed at the verbal abuse police officers get and when the wrong guy says the wrong thing at the wrong time they will snap.
Ferguson turned into a powder keg. A lot of outside agitators came in and whipped up a frenzy. Add in looters that came in from places like Oakland, Chicago, and New York City and you get a very volatile situation. Notice that almost of the arrested people were from outside Ferguson, including Billy Moreno.