Well a PTQ crashed this season, the server has many documented bugs that have not been fixed, replays are spotty - let's not kid ourselves, even though it functionally works a decent amount of the time, the client is garbage.
Puncturing huge price bubbles is exactly the sort of thing Wizards needs to do. They see no profit in out of print cards like FoW spiking in value, but it does effect the playability of the formats they run events for, and the interest in their game. A lot of players with FOW would just assume the price drop and more players enter into legacy than for it to keep value, since they aren't intending to sell them anyway. That means the only people who would care are those speculating or hoarding. Is this population larger than the population of people that would enter legacy if the price were lower? I doubt it.
The reserved list is not involved in the decision not to reprint FOW. Though I suspect the reason they don't is very similar to the reasons they don't reprint cards on the reserved list in paper. They know there are a ton of customers who would be greatly upset by this. I am not saying it is the only factor but it is an important one.
If they puncture every price bubble as soon as it gets big they completely lose the faith of their customers. They already are often being accused of being money grabbing greedy liars by those who are disatisfied with mythics etc. So it isn't so cut and dried.
While it is true the client needs a huge overhaul (beta in the works as I type this according to the mothership), the game itself is working, server crashes are nonextant, tourneys may not be the best organized but they fire when enough players join and MTGO is prospering.
I understand the "restricted" list in paper to a degree even if it has a lot of bad side effects, it was put into place for a reason, whether or not you agree with it.
I can't for the life of me understand their policy towards Force of Will online. It isn't like they need the help of stores or even bots as they do in paper, not reprinting a critical card (in only one series of re-releases) seems absurd, especially since there are no guarantees against a reprint of the card anyway.
You would think if they were in the business of making money, they would reprint it annually (at rare, as they love to do) to continue to sell packs while keeping the price somewhat reasonable. I'm not surprised however, since MTGO is poorly managed in a number of ways.
The Ravnica Shock Duals are all out of stock and have doubled since the announcement. Mostly the Islands are out, but Shrine, Tomb and Blood Crypt are easier to find.
99% of the time it isn't. But some people tend to exploit the hindsight. Normally saying that wotc has the last say in rules make sense in most formats. But commander was made by the community first so I think it's wotc's interest to update them regularly to match paper's rules.
So I get bored and decide to come back to magic to goof around and this is what I find :( /cry Imma try to donate before the end of the month just sad great guy :(.
Yeah, my opponent was super greedy for not playing around Brush with Death, but my best line of play at that point was to hope he didn't, so I went for the attacks.
Totally agree. I wouldn't be upset if they released it as a promo or something even though I have a set. To be honest I thought I was buying at its peak and it was only 100 tix then.
hey guys another great podcast, really enjoyed all the discussion, one thing though, one fo the voices is super low volume and others a ot higher, can you try to equlize things in the future? I find myself adjusting my volume throughout the cast not to wake up my wife and kids while I listen and not hurt my ears reardless. (my setup is my comp = my entertainment center and i sit pretty far for headphones)
Is it me, or was your round 1 opponent incredibly greedy to not just gain 4 off his Spike Feeder? Obviously he didn't know your hand, but if he gains four and goes to 3 instead of 1, he doesn't die to Brush with Death, he has lethal on the backswing, and you need to draw something off Theft of Dreams to live through it. I can understand not playing around Brush game 1, but at that point he'd already died to it once.
Pretty cool article, though, and I appreciate the gameplay videos.
I knew Erik in real life through playing paper with my son at Erik's store "Accidentally Cool Games" here in Bemidji, MN. Tami is keeping the store open and seems to be doing pretty well. Lil Brucie is an awesome kid and I encourage you all to donate generously. You can also support the family by purchasing paper cards at ACG. The spam filter has kept me from giving the store's website but it is very intuitive.
I probably should've just posted images for the rares, you're right. I'll also try to link more when I refer to specific cards.
Ogre Menial did not come up very much - I drew it quite infrequently. When it found its way in play, it was never super amazing (like Razor Swine), but it did the job I wanted it to - hold down the battlefield. On one occasion I killed someone with poison solely from Ogre Menial.
I'm not sure W/R infect is a recipe for success in Sealed. I will definitely try to draft it in triple NPH because Lost Leonin and Razor Swine make an insanely fast curve, but in Sealed, I think the long game is more important because of the rares everyone has.
It isn't that we old timers hate Masques block. It has some great cards. Accumulated Knowledge, Rhystic Study, Misdirection, etc. I have many fond memories of playing with some Masques block cards. However, I have no fond memories of playing Masques block limited.
This should sum it up. Back in those days, I played at a local store that had spawned Bob Maher and numerous other pros. In the middle of Masques block, while prepping for a limited PTQ and upcoming Pro Tour, we decided it would be more fun to draft 5th Edition, Homelands and Fallen Empires - which we did.
Maques block limited is so bad, and the set has so many bad cards, the set will be underdrafted, which means that the few good cards will be really expensive.
As a vorthos I feel really sorry for poor masques block. Since I started playing again online just before mirrodin, its the only block of cards I have never actually played with. And it gets soooo much hate from longtime players. Meanwhile there's so much broken Urza's stuff, yuck.
It is very classy to see someone who truly has the health of the game in mind, rather than their own collection/monetary value. I know most pros/writers/etc do too, but I often question many of their degrees of dedication or perhaps their true motives for not believing that more copies of the older power cards would be good for the legacy and classic formats.
whoops. Each week I start the article by pulling up the Word version of last week's article, copying all the prices from current to last week, erase the topical stuff and change the TNMO format.
Guess which one I forgot to do...
TNMO for next week is Scars of Mirrodin Block 4-Booster Sealed.
Well a PTQ crashed this season, the server has many documented bugs that have not been fixed, replays are spotty - let's not kid ourselves, even though it functionally works a decent amount of the time, the client is garbage.
Puncturing huge price bubbles is exactly the sort of thing Wizards needs to do. They see no profit in out of print cards like FoW spiking in value, but it does effect the playability of the formats they run events for, and the interest in their game. A lot of players with FOW would just assume the price drop and more players enter into legacy than for it to keep value, since they aren't intending to sell them anyway. That means the only people who would care are those speculating or hoarding. Is this population larger than the population of people that would enter legacy if the price were lower? I doubt it.
yep cruel bargain, Nature's ruin and Virtue's ruin are missing :)
The reserved list is not involved in the decision not to reprint FOW. Though I suspect the reason they don't is very similar to the reasons they don't reprint cards on the reserved list in paper. They know there are a ton of customers who would be greatly upset by this. I am not saying it is the only factor but it is an important one.
If they puncture every price bubble as soon as it gets big they completely lose the faith of their customers. They already are often being accused of being money grabbing greedy liars by those who are disatisfied with mythics etc. So it isn't so cut and dried.
While it is true the client needs a huge overhaul (beta in the works as I type this according to the mothership), the game itself is working, server crashes are nonextant, tourneys may not be the best organized but they fire when enough players join and MTGO is prospering.
I understand the "restricted" list in paper to a degree even if it has a lot of bad side effects, it was put into place for a reason, whether or not you agree with it.
I can't for the life of me understand their policy towards Force of Will online. It isn't like they need the help of stores or even bots as they do in paper, not reprinting a critical card (in only one series of re-releases) seems absurd, especially since there are no guarantees against a reprint of the card anyway.
You would think if they were in the business of making money, they would reprint it annually (at rare, as they love to do) to continue to sell packs while keeping the price somewhat reasonable. I'm not surprised however, since MTGO is poorly managed in a number of ways.
I just noticed that myself... sad face.
Maybe they get reprinted in a core set upcoming?
The Ravnica Shock Duals are all out of stock and have doubled since the announcement. Mostly the Islands are out, but Shrine, Tomb and Blood Crypt are easier to find.
Manabase hoarding has begun!
99% of the time it isn't. But some people tend to exploit the hindsight. Normally saying that wotc has the last say in rules make sense in most formats. But commander was made by the community first so I think it's wotc's interest to update them regularly to match paper's rules.
So I get bored and decide to come back to magic to goof around and this is what I find :( /cry Imma try to donate before the end of the month just sad great guy :(.
Cruel Bargain, please! That was a cruel oversight of ME4.
Great cast and great job Mike! Too many guests remain too silent but you took the initiative so many times.
Yeah, my opponent was super greedy for not playing around Brush with Death, but my best line of play at that point was to hope he didn't, so I went for the attacks.
Totally agree. I wouldn't be upset if they released it as a promo or something even though I have a set. To be honest I thought I was buying at its peak and it was only 100 tix then.
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hey guys another great podcast, really enjoyed all the discussion, one thing though, one fo the voices is super low volume and others a ot higher, can you try to equlize things in the future? I find myself adjusting my volume throughout the cast not to wake up my wife and kids while I listen and not hurt my ears reardless. (my setup is my comp = my entertainment center and i sit pretty far for headphones)
From what I can see in the boards about Modern, It would become my preferred casual format, especially if it's 8th edition and upwards.
Is it me, or was your round 1 opponent incredibly greedy to not just gain 4 off his Spike Feeder? Obviously he didn't know your hand, but if he gains four and goes to 3 instead of 1, he doesn't die to Brush with Death, he has lethal on the backswing, and you need to draw something off Theft of Dreams to live through it. I can understand not playing around Brush game 1, but at that point he'd already died to it once.
Pretty cool article, though, and I appreciate the gameplay videos.
I knew Erik in real life through playing paper with my son at Erik's store "Accidentally Cool Games" here in Bemidji, MN. Tami is keeping the store open and seems to be doing pretty well. Lil Brucie is an awesome kid and I encourage you all to donate generously. You can also support the family by purchasing paper cards at ACG. The spam filter has kept me from giving the store's website but it is very intuitive.
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Phasing doesn't trigger comes into play abilities, so that doesn't work.
I always wanted to try Taniwha together with Ob Nixilis. Everytime my lands phase in, someone dies! That would be fun.
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I probably should've just posted images for the rares, you're right. I'll also try to link more when I refer to specific cards.
Ogre Menial did not come up very much - I drew it quite infrequently. When it found its way in play, it was never super amazing (like Razor Swine), but it did the job I wanted it to - hold down the battlefield. On one occasion I killed someone with poison solely from Ogre Menial.
I'm not sure W/R infect is a recipe for success in Sealed. I will definitely try to draft it in triple NPH because Lost Leonin and Razor Swine make an insanely fast curve, but in Sealed, I think the long game is more important because of the rares everyone has.
Thanks for the advice!
It isn't that we old timers hate Masques block. It has some great cards. Accumulated Knowledge, Rhystic Study, Misdirection, etc. I have many fond memories of playing with some Masques block cards. However, I have no fond memories of playing Masques block limited.
This should sum it up. Back in those days, I played at a local store that had spawned Bob Maher and numerous other pros. In the middle of Masques block, while prepping for a limited PTQ and upcoming Pro Tour, we decided it would be more fun to draft 5th Edition, Homelands and Fallen Empires - which we did.
Maques block limited is so bad, and the set has so many bad cards, the set will be underdrafted, which means that the few good cards will be really expensive.
Now I want to hear the outtakes and bloopers!
Can't wait for next week's article I want to see how Modern(the new format under testing) affects the market.
As a vorthos I feel really sorry for poor masques block. Since I started playing again online just before mirrodin, its the only block of cards I have never actually played with. And it gets soooo much hate from longtime players. Meanwhile there's so much broken Urza's stuff, yuck.
It is very classy to see someone who truly has the health of the game in mind, rather than their own collection/monetary value. I know most pros/writers/etc do too, but I often question many of their degrees of dedication or perhaps their true motives for not believing that more copies of the older power cards would be good for the legacy and classic formats.
whoops. Each week I start the article by pulling up the Word version of last week's article, copying all the prices from current to last week, erase the topical stuff and change the TNMO format.
Guess which one I forgot to do...
TNMO for next week is Scars of Mirrodin Block 4-Booster Sealed.
And thanks for the kind words.