Everflowing Chalice is useful against every deck. In the matchups it's swapped out it's not always swapped for the same cards.
You can make the argument that one of the Chalices should be the 4th Flashfreeze but then you have 4 absolutely dead cards against non-red/green decks and those are the ones in which Chalice is most beneficial. I'd rather run the 3/1 split.
I got to play against flip's beasts vs. my zombies and I was happy how zombies performed, its a lot like playin suicide black cuz I was using Shepard of rots
in rnd one i won the first game then endless realized iona = gg and got it in game two for the win and game three my anti-enchantment deck couldnt draw a kill for Moat x2 before he got to Iona.. yeah
I was thinking of running a rats deck but like flippers said, it will probably be everywhere. So I will probably throw some off the wall deck together and see how it does.
You guys should know that WW is easily done as Humans with about 4 card changes to the deck. Faeries is up there already and can be submitted with no changes at all. MBC is a tier 1 deck that requires the most changes to the creaturebase (Rats), but will certainly be powerful enough to keep creature-combo honest.
That said, I'm not sure if banning tribes is the right call. My two cents.
EDIT: I know it's a casual event, but I'm just giving a headsup. I'm pretty sure that there will be people running the best deck that they can muster, casual or not, and no bans / yes bans doesn't change that there will always be a "best" deck.
That's you. I can't do that and expect to win. I can pilot a deck if I know it well but otherwise it is usually a nightmare starting with low land and ending with flood.
Yeah but my question is...if Everflowing Chalice doesn't fit when doing the sideboard why is it in there? It seems like IT is the sideboard card main decked.
I played vs the guy who complained about the Angel deck round 1. He brought slivers and both games got out a horde of slivers before I could even land a single snake (mana issues = game over vs aggro) Game 1 he got 3 virulent slivers out and by turn 3 I was dead. Game 2 it was just a swarm of 1/1 hasters + Sinew Sliver. Same story.
So the guy was merely put off that his "low end" swarm tricks didn't win the day. (His words are in quotes.) He had the nerve to apologize to me after playing the third virulent sliver. To me that is just insulting. Yes I know, I am one who encourages politeness but in this case it felt like something else. What really gets me is that slivers lose to so many strategies but you have to be playing a deck that has them. I don't think his deck was at all unbeatable by mine but sometimes shit happens. Also if I had brought say my humans sweepers deck I think things might have been a tad different.
Different decks to do different things. I was put off that I had a 0-2 record last week (Also lost to Endless round 2) and to be honest have lost a lot of enthusiasm for the format
2 Ophidian
2 Sensei's Divining Top
5 Island
4 Cloudpost
2 Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
4 Mind Spring
2 Vivid Creek
2 Braingeyser
2 Mountain
1 Simic Growth Chamber
3 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Comet Storm
1 Spellbound Dragon
4 Lorescale Coatl
4 Everflowing Chalice
1 Reliquary Tower
4 Coiling Oracle
3 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
3 Mystic Snake
4 Winged Coatl
1 Halimar Depths
4 Forest
This was my deck list. Typically jank it ran 3 colors so I could play Niv Mizzet. Which seems like a natural include when you can draw tons of cards in a deck. Game 2 vs Endless I think I cast 3 draw x spells (all to no avail.) It just didn't work and why I was surprised at the time is beyond me now. The deck was just bad and part of the reason this is so is because instead of bringing a well tested deck (Sphinges for example or Naya cats) I brought my latest brain storm and hoped it would suffice without extensive testing.
I find the format frustrating because doing so is an auto loss. Bringing a last minute untested deck is a guaranteed way of getting your ass kicked. It used to be you could do that and still have a chance because other people would do the same thing. But NOW? People metagame, they plan, they test, they remake their decks until they win, and they do ridiculous things like turn 2 Angel on the board via animation etc.
I don't think I will be participating in the pauper challenge because I have not come up with a deck that isn't rats that wins. And I don't own 4x Crypt Rats. I am just not a good enough player to take less than good decks and get decent draws with them. I wish those who do compete luck.
If you are in the US Eastern Time Zone and follow Daylight Savings Time, sign up starts at 12:30 PM and the matches start at 1:00 PM.
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first of all i really must congratulate you for these series. best magic humor since john friggin rizzo. i checked the other articles but could not see any entry for my all time favorite sandals of abdallah best blue hoser ever. will you talk about it somewhere?
One other thing I'd like to see in coverage of Legacy is a short summary of how it differs from Classic rules-wise, followed by a little commentary on how that will that affect popular deck archetypes & the metagame compared to the Classic metagame.
I run Swans of Bryn Argol in my similar Pyrohemia deck. Adding a "draw a card" rider to Pestilence makes sure you're still in great shape even if your opponent manages to take it out. Or, you can always just win with 4 points of evasive, hard-to-kill power.
Calciderm is another champ. He's cheap, is really hard to kill, survives Pestilence with his big butt, and hits really hard when all the chump blockers get wiped every turn.
I want to make sure I am 100% on this. The starting time for Eastern Standard Time is 12:30 PM. I believe at the wizards community page it says it starts at 930 am. hence the reason why I didn't play this past weekend. I am not that early of a riser, I work late hours.
Karakas is your best friend to bounce Iona. Really starting to see a lot of people play that in legacy now due to the amount of iona in that format. Most decks that cheat her into play are screwed by that card.
Congrats Josh, I hope you have a really good time.
Also, I think bringing back 7th Edition is absolutely a terrible idea. It doesn't have much nostalgia value, the only card that it helps increase the supply of is Crypt Rats, and the packs won from 7th Edition tournaments will most likely be next to worthless after their event week is over.
Everflowing Chalice is useful against every deck. In the matchups it's swapped out it's not always swapped for the same cards.
You can make the argument that one of the Chalices should be the 4th Flashfreeze but then you have 4 absolutely dead cards against non-red/green decks and those are the ones in which Chalice is most beneficial. I'd rather run the 3/1 split.
I got to play against flip's beasts vs. my zombies and I was happy how zombies performed, its a lot like playin suicide black cuz I was using Shepard of rots
*hopes for no blastoderms*
I was one of the bigger complainers over gobos and it was just because i lost to one i felt i coulda won lol needless to say I was in a cranky mood
in rnd one i won the first game then endless realized iona = gg and got it in game two for the win and game three my anti-enchantment deck couldnt draw a kill for Moat x2 before he got to Iona.. yeah
I have tested Rats and Soldiers. I like the Soldier WW build a bit more for a Tribal format than the Humans off shoot, but it is a close call.
I haven't seen a MUC deck that runs 20 Faeries, but Pestermite, Spellstutter Sprite, and Sentinels of Glen Elendra are a decent start.
Warriors, Humans, Zombies, Cats, Clerics are all doable. I actually think Spiders and Birds are close to playable.
I was thinking of running a rats deck but like flippers said, it will probably be everywhere. So I will probably throw some off the wall deck together and see how it does.
You guys should know that WW is easily done as Humans with about 4 card changes to the deck. Faeries is up there already and can be submitted with no changes at all. MBC is a tier 1 deck that requires the most changes to the creaturebase (Rats), but will certainly be powerful enough to keep creature-combo honest.
That said, I'm not sure if banning tribes is the right call. My two cents.
EDIT: I know it's a casual event, but I'm just giving a headsup. I'm pretty sure that there will be people running the best deck that they can muster, casual or not, and no bans / yes bans doesn't change that there will always be a "best" deck.
That's you. I can't do that and expect to win. I can pilot a deck if I know it well but otherwise it is usually a nightmare starting with low land and ending with flood.
I only play test my decks for five games and thats it.
I'm against playing Crypt Rats this weak as I expect to see lots of rat decks, I'm going to bring something weird and wonderful as usual.
I think I just confused a thread on the community forums.
Yeah but my question is...if Everflowing Chalice doesn't fit when doing the sideboard why is it in there? It seems like IT is the sideboard card main decked.
I played vs the guy who complained about the Angel deck round 1. He brought slivers and both games got out a horde of slivers before I could even land a single snake (mana issues = game over vs aggro) Game 1 he got 3 virulent slivers out and by turn 3 I was dead. Game 2 it was just a swarm of 1/1 hasters + Sinew Sliver. Same story.
So the guy was merely put off that his "low end" swarm tricks didn't win the day. (His words are in quotes.) He had the nerve to apologize to me after playing the third virulent sliver. To me that is just insulting. Yes I know, I am one who encourages politeness but in this case it felt like something else. What really gets me is that slivers lose to so many strategies but you have to be playing a deck that has them. I don't think his deck was at all unbeatable by mine but sometimes shit happens. Also if I had brought say my humans sweepers deck I think things might have been a tad different.
Different decks to do different things. I was put off that I had a 0-2 record last week (Also lost to Endless round 2) and to be honest have lost a lot of enthusiasm for the format
2 Ophidian
2 Sensei's Divining Top
5 Island
4 Cloudpost
2 Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
4 Mind Spring
2 Vivid Creek
2 Braingeyser
2 Mountain
1 Simic Growth Chamber
3 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Comet Storm
1 Spellbound Dragon
4 Lorescale Coatl
4 Everflowing Chalice
1 Reliquary Tower
4 Coiling Oracle
3 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Oran-Rief, the Vastwood
3 Mystic Snake
4 Winged Coatl
1 Halimar Depths
4 Forest
This was my deck list. Typically jank it ran 3 colors so I could play Niv Mizzet. Which seems like a natural include when you can draw tons of cards in a deck. Game 2 vs Endless I think I cast 3 draw x spells (all to no avail.) It just didn't work and why I was surprised at the time is beyond me now. The deck was just bad and part of the reason this is so is because instead of bringing a well tested deck (Sphinges for example or Naya cats) I brought my latest brain storm and hoped it would suffice without extensive testing.
I find the format frustrating because doing so is an auto loss. Bringing a last minute untested deck is a guaranteed way of getting your ass kicked. It used to be you could do that and still have a chance because other people would do the same thing. But NOW? People metagame, they plan, they test, they remake their decks until they win, and they do ridiculous things like turn 2 Angel on the board via animation etc.
I don't think I will be participating in the pauper challenge because I have not come up with a deck that isn't rats that wins. And I don't own 4x Crypt Rats. I am just not a good enough player to take less than good decks and get decent draws with them. I wish those who do compete luck.
If you are in the US Eastern Time Zone and follow Daylight Savings Time, sign up starts at 12:30 PM and the matches start at 1:00 PM.
If you live somewhere in the US Eastern Time Zone that doesn't follow Daylight Savings Time ( i.e., Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, and some of Indiana), registration starts at 11:30 AM with matches starting at noon.
where is sandals of abdallah man?
first of all i really must congratulate you for these series. best magic humor since john friggin rizzo. i checked the other articles but could not see any entry for my all time favorite sandals of abdallah best blue hoser ever. will you talk about it somewhere?
One other thing I'd like to see in coverage of Legacy is a short summary of how it differs from Classic rules-wise, followed by a little commentary on how that will that affect popular deck archetypes & the metagame compared to the Classic metagame.
ummm it should be 12 there as well...mainly because that time does not exist to me on saturdays
I run Swans of Bryn Argol in my similar Pyrohemia deck. Adding a "draw a card" rider to Pestilence makes sure you're still in great shape even if your opponent manages to take it out. Or, you can always just win with 4 points of evasive, hard-to-kill power.
Calciderm is another champ. He's cheap, is really hard to kill, survives Pestilence with his big butt, and hits really hard when all the chump blockers get wiped every turn.
I want to make sure I am 100% on this. The starting time for Eastern Standard Time is 12:30 PM. I believe at the wizards community page it says it starts at 930 am. hence the reason why I didn't play this past weekend. I am not that early of a riser, I work late hours.
Way to go Josh!
Congrats Josh. It was disappointing that you did not get selected last year, but now you get your chance to defend the title.
Karakas is your best friend to bounce Iona. Really starting to see a lot of people play that in legacy now due to the amount of iona in that format. Most decks that cheat her into play are screwed by that card.
I'll take the Plants challenge
Sounds fun.
Congrats Josh, I hope you have a really good time.
Also, I think bringing back 7th Edition is absolutely a terrible idea. It doesn't have much nostalgia value, the only card that it helps increase the supply of is Crypt Rats, and the packs won from 7th Edition tournaments will most likely be next to worthless after their event week is over.