My Necrotic Ooze deck which I will talk about next week, will be a SoM Block deck (obviously) and therefore it will only be as interesting as the card pool of that format allows.
Xaos, I have a huge collection of Magic art (collected from various sources (WotC's site, artists' sites, other Magic sites etc...)) and I used that Myr pic as it was (meaning I made no changes). Sometimes I do some changes to the pics or combine two or more pics and make one single pic out of them, but this wasen't one of those.
Maybe just some cheap counter like a combo of spell pierce, force spike, negate, remove soul and then some permanent blockers to kill any 2 toughness guys that get out to negate more of their deck, the bouncers like you mentioned help with that and have the synergy, a couple Teferi's Moat could be pretty sick here negating a swath of opp creatures. Maybe a couple filter cards that let you ditch cards in hand like spike and pierce when theyre no longer useful, sphinx of lost truth helps with this and has some of the blocking/attacking synergy. Anyhow just some quick thoughts,
pretty prodigious ooze article here, I must say. (I really didn't have to but then what would we be if not prone to unnecessary blurting, bobbling and boozling about?)
I look forward to more of your stuff, clearly you are a talented fellow for this sort of thing,
You're never going to get freebies and de-facto promotion from wizards if you keep talking trash about Jace, the Cash-Gouger. Take a note from the guy from "The Magic Show", and the sky is the limit lol.
silly how cheap valakut remains with how well it does in events. For some reason your Argentum Relic decks show as incomplete to me (not 60 cards in maindeck not 15 in sb)
post event dining was always one of my favortie things when I first started playing events with friends as a young lad.
how about throwing in memnite into the a bushwhacker deck? gives you another artifact to sac to rebirth + letting you cast it turn 1 without the land loss and then if you don't need to sac it's another free 1 damage attacker for whacker to pump or to smack em turn 2.
Personally I feel that trading fairly is the product of being honest about what the cards are of value of to you or not making any claim at all about whether the trade is "fair" or not. Obviously if you know that a card sells for more to a bot than you are giving them for it you know the trade is "not fair", at least online where they don't have to drive anywhere or anything to get the sale price.
There is a fuzzy area here though, if you take a new player or someone ignorant of prices for cards in a trade knowing that you're totally owning them based on their ignorance I think that's pretty messed up. If you get 10-20% out of any trade I don't think that's that big a deal, you could easily be down on the trade the next day based on price changes. It's a matter of personal morality as to how far you're comfortable with this or not uncomfortable with any level on way or the other. (If you're not uncomfortable with any level of owning someone IMO you may be what used to be referred to in medicine as a sociopath, someone who does not care about others whatsoever and is to be feared by all of humanity)
Personally I prefer to just trade based on mtgotraders prices down to less than 5% difference so long as the cards are in stock and seem reasonably priced, I do this because I don't pay attention to price change trends, format legality changes (other than Heirloom), reprinting schedules ect, and I'm just not a frequent trader. Also I figure I can alleviate any suspicion between me and the other trader by doing this and allow for an ongoing and future playing, trading, social relationship.
It's too bad that creeping tar pit in the Inglorious Infecters deck is such an anti-synergy, Though to get rid of walkers its nice to have normal damage instead of just infect damage, but of course taking your opp down to zero life instead of up to 10 poison counters is going to be a long slog.
This is one of the best casual deck articles I've seen on here, Jan. Funny, well-written, thorough, with plenty of screens. Like JustSin I'd suggest scaling down the screens, and also reducing their frequency somewhat - 1-2 turning points/captures per game should suffice. To represent the opening hand, you dont need a full screen - either crop it to the hand, or present the cards as thumbnail image links in a row; either works fine.
I thought it was pretty funny how predictable your opponent archetypes were in their card-choices (poison player excepted, of course). Despite the ever-increasing cardpool and great variety of classic, it's remarkable how close to cliches most of the casual population remains. Good to see that you're busting out some uncommon interactions in a way that might spark some imaginations on the other side of the table (probably too much to hope for!).
In instances like these, you basically read the text as "R: THIS CARD gains haste until end of turn." Skill Borrower worked the same way. The ability-cloning takes into account that the card-name is different, and adjusts accordingly.
No, you're perceived as sleazy because you said this, "I put the Watery Grave at $5 the Steam Vents at $3 and the Temple Garden at $2," and then proceeded to list them at:
If you truly and logically feel, and it makes sense, that their value is $5, 3 and 2, then the list should reflect that. Giving someone a reasoned answer why they're worth less for the sole purpose of intentionally trading them away a day or so later at the prices in the list ($10, 13 and 12) makes you perceivably sleazy. You don't have to buy into what we're saying, but no matter what you say to defend it, a lot of people are nevertheless going to think those practices are sleazy.
I am not sure the ooze will work with the Serpentine Kavu. It says "R: Serpentine Kavu gains haste until end of turn." Even though the ooze gets the ability, the creature is still Necrotic Ooze not Serpentine Kavu. Anyone with enough judge skill that can confirm or deny this for me?
Goblins are pretty insane so yeah it's going to be hard to find decks that beat them consistently, though certianly decks that can afford to run a lot of cheap burn or board sweepers probably can, (the cycling deck for instance would probably have a good shot)
The event you won would be covered three article from now, so in a bit lol, (the next one is in que atm)
I'm still trying to catch up from when I had to essentially take a three week hiatus from writing to make the legal card list and then when my wife was hospitalized for awhile.
I'll get caught up on of these months lol, but you wouldn't want to share the spotlight of me covering your win with someone else's right?
It was a fun deck. Drawing the Armor at times did see like a dead draw, thats why I believe Stoneforge Mystic and Kor outfitter will help to relieve that. Defenitly not a bad card once its equipped. It basically makes your creature a titan with an attack ability like the regular titans from M11(+6/+6 and detroy a permenant). If it becomes unequipped and you don't have the mana to re equip it, its just Metalcraft fodder at that point.
I am considereing day for the next build, but the idea is to hope to race any other deck before they can stablize. Basically taking the place of RDW in the format now that red is a midrange deck.
I sent Jamuraa a PM yesterday and he said to just submit the article and he would have the links up today, but it seems they are still not working. Guess he got tied up..
As for my record, I was always under the im pression you did your results like this, Win-Tie-Loss, but I could be wrong.
It has been so long since I have even looked at paper cards I forgot how trading was in paper. I can see now that they are totally different animals. I guess keep doing what your doing. I dont really have any personal opinion of paper ethics since I dont deal with it. I guess seeing how slow the paper world moves in pricings and card acquistions that things may not change pricewise as quickly as online.
There are so many factors in the realm of trading paper magic and it’s completely different than MTGO. For example, people who play MTGO, have more access to immediate gratification than paper players (let’s face it, all magic player wants instant gratification). If a paper player is broke and wants to play a deck NOW, then the ability to trade for the cards that they “need” is a blessing.
On MTGO you simply sell your leftovers to a bot and then buy the cards you need. This isn’t always possible in paper magic.
As a trader, I see myself as a service provider. I don’t need any Magic Cards. I have a full set of Power Nine and every card that I need to build whatever deck I want. So, why do I work at maintaining a trade binder full of relevant cards for each format? Why do I spend time looking through people’s binder and building a deal that works for both of us?
I do this to be a service to my community.
Do I make money while doing it? Sure, but only because I can’t justify the time I spend reading, calculating, trading, traveling and buying/selling in any other way. My level of involvement has become much higher than “regular-hobby” level. The innocent days of batting against my friends Sliver deck with my 72 card mono-black deck (full or 1 and 2-ofs) are long over.
When I come to my local shop, I have to be there 30mins before the tournaments to service the needs of the local player base; players who don’t have the money to buy new cards every week.
Tumble Magnets are awesome even without being recharged. If 2 or 3 activations is enough to swing the game in your favor, why worry about proliferating it? And often, those 3 uses are enough.
paper magic sucks..online the prices reflected the switch almost instantaneously, so there was never a discrepancy except for the handful that were able to sell off shocklands in the first couple hours of the announcement, but it was public knowledge then. Though even now after the announcement and with them onlyn seeing play casually and in edh they are still closer to 7-10 a piece than the 2-3 you got them for. Though maybe the person was also an idiot who traded them... but without the longer explanation it did look very shady on the surface.
Hi guys and thanks for the comments.
My Necrotic Ooze deck which I will talk about next week, will be a SoM Block deck (obviously) and therefore it will only be as interesting as the card pool of that format allows.
Xaos, I have a huge collection of Magic art (collected from various sources (WotC's site, artists' sites, other Magic sites etc...)) and I used that Myr pic as it was (meaning I made no changes). Sometimes I do some changes to the pics or combine two or more pics and make one single pic out of them, but this wasen't one of those.
Thanks again for the comments.
LE
Maybe just some cheap counter like a combo of spell pierce, force spike, negate, remove soul and then some permanent blockers to kill any 2 toughness guys that get out to negate more of their deck, the bouncers like you mentioned help with that and have the synergy, a couple Teferi's Moat could be pretty sick here negating a swath of opp creatures. Maybe a couple filter cards that let you ditch cards in hand like spike and pierce when theyre no longer useful, sphinx of lost truth helps with this and has some of the blocking/attacking synergy. Anyhow just some quick thoughts,
X-
Great Banner btw,
pretty prodigious ooze article here, I must say. (I really didn't have to but then what would we be if not prone to unnecessary blurting, bobbling and boozling about?)
I look forward to more of your stuff, clearly you are a talented fellow for this sort of thing,
X-
My-Lord-Erman,
You probably won't find me playing SBC, but it does remind me that I might have to build something for SBPC (Scars Block Pauper Constructed).
Visually brilliant as always, did you carve out the Pallidium Myr picture yourself or import that from some other source?
Koth is so busted good, at least he's in a main set that will be opened a ton.
X-
You're never going to get freebies and de-facto promotion from wizards if you keep talking trash about Jace, the Cash-Gouger. Take a note from the guy from "The Magic Show", and the sky is the limit lol.
X-
Great article Lythand,
silly how cheap valakut remains with how well it does in events. For some reason your Argentum Relic decks show as incomplete to me (not 60 cards in maindeck not 15 in sb)
post event dining was always one of my favortie things when I first started playing events with friends as a young lad.
X-
how about throwing in memnite into the a bushwhacker deck? gives you another artifact to sac to rebirth + letting you cast it turn 1 without the land loss and then if you don't need to sac it's another free 1 damage attacker for whacker to pump or to smack em turn 2.
X-
I like your insight here Amar.
Personally I feel that trading fairly is the product of being honest about what the cards are of value of to you or not making any claim at all about whether the trade is "fair" or not. Obviously if you know that a card sells for more to a bot than you are giving them for it you know the trade is "not fair", at least online where they don't have to drive anywhere or anything to get the sale price.
There is a fuzzy area here though, if you take a new player or someone ignorant of prices for cards in a trade knowing that you're totally owning them based on their ignorance I think that's pretty messed up. If you get 10-20% out of any trade I don't think that's that big a deal, you could easily be down on the trade the next day based on price changes. It's a matter of personal morality as to how far you're comfortable with this or not uncomfortable with any level on way or the other. (If you're not uncomfortable with any level of owning someone IMO you may be what used to be referred to in medicine as a sociopath, someone who does not care about others whatsoever and is to be feared by all of humanity)
Personally I prefer to just trade based on mtgotraders prices down to less than 5% difference so long as the cards are in stock and seem reasonably priced, I do this because I don't pay attention to price change trends, format legality changes (other than Heirloom), reprinting schedules ect, and I'm just not a frequent trader. Also I figure I can alleviate any suspicion between me and the other trader by doing this and allow for an ongoing and future playing, trading, social relationship.
my twenty cents,
X-
It's too bad that creeping tar pit in the Inglorious Infecters deck is such an anti-synergy, Though to get rid of walkers its nice to have normal damage instead of just infect damage, but of course taking your opp down to zero life instead of up to 10 poison counters is going to be a long slog.
X-
Sorry guys. I play on a super wide screen, haha.
but your profile picture must be the most funniest part.
you look like a rainbow alien. (yes, the HR Giger ones)
This is one of the best casual deck articles I've seen on here, Jan. Funny, well-written, thorough, with plenty of screens. Like JustSin I'd suggest scaling down the screens, and also reducing their frequency somewhat - 1-2 turning points/captures per game should suffice. To represent the opening hand, you dont need a full screen - either crop it to the hand, or present the cards as thumbnail image links in a row; either works fine.
I thought it was pretty funny how predictable your opponent archetypes were in their card-choices (poison player excepted, of course). Despite the ever-increasing cardpool and great variety of classic, it's remarkable how close to cliches most of the casual population remains. Good to see that you're busting out some uncommon interactions in a way that might spark some imaginations on the other side of the table (probably too much to hope for!).
In instances like these, you basically read the text as "R: THIS CARD gains haste until end of turn." Skill Borrower worked the same way. The ability-cloning takes into account that the card-name is different, and adjusts accordingly.
fantastic deck, but I wish you screens were smaller
If I could I would give you bonus points for the name "Masti-mcNasty"
No, you're perceived as sleazy because you said this, "I put the Watery Grave at $5 the Steam Vents at $3 and the Temple Garden at $2," and then proceeded to list them at:
His (46.15)
Temple Garden 9.99
Watery Grave 12.99
Steam Vents 11.99
If you truly and logically feel, and it makes sense, that their value is $5, 3 and 2, then the list should reflect that. Giving someone a reasoned answer why they're worth less for the sole purpose of intentionally trading them away a day or so later at the prices in the list ($10, 13 and 12) makes you perceivably sleazy. You don't have to buy into what we're saying, but no matter what you say to defend it, a lot of people are nevertheless going to think those practices are sleazy.
I am not sure the ooze will work with the Serpentine Kavu. It says "R: Serpentine Kavu gains haste until end of turn." Even though the ooze gets the ability, the creature is still Necrotic Ooze not Serpentine Kavu. Anyone with enough judge skill that can confirm or deny this for me?
Goblins are pretty insane so yeah it's going to be hard to find decks that beat them consistently, though certianly decks that can afford to run a lot of cheap burn or board sweepers probably can, (the cycling deck for instance would probably have a good shot)
The event you won would be covered three article from now, so in a bit lol, (the next one is in que atm)
I'm still trying to catch up from when I had to essentially take a three week hiatus from writing to make the legal card list and then when my wife was hospitalized for awhile.
I'll get caught up on of these months lol, but you wouldn't want to share the spotlight of me covering your win with someone else's right?
X-
It was a fun deck. Drawing the Armor at times did see like a dead draw, thats why I believe Stoneforge Mystic and Kor outfitter will help to relieve that. Defenitly not a bad card once its equipped. It basically makes your creature a titan with an attack ability like the regular titans from M11(+6/+6 and detroy a permenant). If it becomes unequipped and you don't have the mana to re equip it, its just Metalcraft fodder at that point.
I am considereing day for the next build, but the idea is to hope to race any other deck before they can stablize. Basically taking the place of RDW in the format now that red is a midrange deck.
I sent Jamuraa a PM yesterday and he said to just submit the article and he would have the links up today, but it seems they are still not working. Guess he got tied up..
As for my record, I was always under the im pression you did your results like this, Win-Tie-Loss, but I could be wrong.
thanks
It has been so long since I have even looked at paper cards I forgot how trading was in paper. I can see now that they are totally different animals. I guess keep doing what your doing. I dont really have any personal opinion of paper ethics since I dont deal with it. I guess seeing how slow the paper world moves in pricings and card acquistions that things may not change pricewise as quickly as online.
There are so many factors in the realm of trading paper magic and it’s completely different than MTGO. For example, people who play MTGO, have more access to immediate gratification than paper players (let’s face it, all magic player wants instant gratification). If a paper player is broke and wants to play a deck NOW, then the ability to trade for the cards that they “need” is a blessing.
On MTGO you simply sell your leftovers to a bot and then buy the cards you need. This isn’t always possible in paper magic.
As a trader, I see myself as a service provider. I don’t need any Magic Cards. I have a full set of Power Nine and every card that I need to build whatever deck I want. So, why do I work at maintaining a trade binder full of relevant cards for each format? Why do I spend time looking through people’s binder and building a deal that works for both of us?
I do this to be a service to my community.
Do I make money while doing it? Sure, but only because I can’t justify the time I spend reading, calculating, trading, traveling and buying/selling in any other way. My level of involvement has become much higher than “regular-hobby” level. The innocent days of batting against my friends Sliver deck with my 72 card mono-black deck (full or 1 and 2-ofs) are long over.
When I come to my local shop, I have to be there 30mins before the tournaments to service the needs of the local player base; players who don’t have the money to buy new cards every week.
Tumble Magnets are awesome even without being recharged. If 2 or 3 activations is enough to swing the game in your favor, why worry about proliferating it? And often, those 3 uses are enough.
paper magic sucks..online the prices reflected the switch almost instantaneously, so there was never a discrepancy except for the handful that were able to sell off shocklands in the first couple hours of the announcement, but it was public knowledge then. Though even now after the announcement and with them onlyn seeing play casually and in edh they are still closer to 7-10 a piece than the 2-3 you got them for. Though maybe the person was also an idiot who traded them... but without the longer explanation it did look very shady on the surface.