I usually never have a problem with seeing 2 early on. I mean yes, it does suck to have 2 so called, dead cards in your hand when you can't cast them, but this deck has so many tools to stall, unless your losing to variance/luck, you should have enough time to get to 6
Against AnT I sided in permanent based hate and AnT generally only really wants Bob to fight against counter based decks. Also Xantid Swarm doesn't help much against the specific type of hate that I used. If I had seen Bob game 2 then I would have bought in swords back in. Usually my experience against AnT or even TES(The Epic Storm 4 color based tendril decks) that is they bring in hard discard (Thoughtseize not duress)or bounce in many forms.
Against Koby right or wrong I made the decision to try and tie up as much of he's mana as I could for choke. Also I decided that I couldn't out finesse him, but instead out muscle him with my fatties. So I made as much room as possible by removing the weakest creatures and hopefully eat up mana with Stoneforge activation/equipment activation.. Finally this is Koby who I often test with and run my deck list ideas against. He knows about my Aven's so if he wants to play around them when they are gone, all the better for me.
Not a bad attempt at a first article. Paul made some helpful suggestions that would help improve your next one.
I had a few questions regarding your matches.
Match 1 - You removed all swords, I'm assuming your opponent wasn't splashing green for Xantid, otherwise taking out all 4 swords seems wrong to me. I realize most ANT lists don't run Xantid, so probably no biggie. You did point to the fact you saw no Bobs, so I guess removing all 4 swords was the right play. Do you leave swords in if you anticipate Bob? Nice rip on the top deck GSZ btw lol.
Match vs. Koby - Maybe Koby himself can comment on this better than I, since he took maverick to a Top 8 Finish. Isn't taking out Aven Mindcensor a bad idea since he is fetching up equipment, wouldn't Aven stop that from happening (well at least give him minimal chances of drawing equipment). Plus isn't Aven a pretty good sword holder himself? Just seems to me that removing him isn't a money play.
Nice to see some Legacy content on the site........you have inspired me, maybe it is time to write again!
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1:18 PM ApolloGod: rules of mtgo: 1. if you win, you netdecked. 2. if your deck is good, it's cheap. 3. if you have $$$, you're lame. 4. if you play discard/counter/ld/mill you're boring. 5. if you don't let your opp win all the time, you're a jerk
I apologize if i'm mistaken, but you mentioned that this is a Johnny deck, implying weird combos. This looks like a fairly standard zombie deck. Play zombies, kill creatures, ???, profit. Granted, it looks pretty effective, but these kinds of decks kind of build themselves.
I would suggest Gempalm Polluter as a win condition/card draw over the Gravediggers. They work well with Lord of the Undead as well. Also, 24 lands seems a bit steep for a deck with a maximum casting cost of 4 (3 if you replace the Gravediggers). I'm glad you found success with it though!
With a name like Jason Hall I'm going to have to assume that English is your first language. The contents of they article may very well be great, but the formatting and complete lack of editing is SO bad the best I could do was skim it.
I'll go ahead and leave it unrated since, well, there "were" a lot of words there, and it is your first article here. Still, first impressions are everything, I'd work on it.
Apaulogy should have been in the list. You were in the mental list I was making planning this article during my commute, and one of the names I could not remember when finally writing.
The best way to start is to pick a deck and buy into that. Some sort of GW hate is probably your cheapest competitive option. Look at the Tournament or Deck List page on Classic Quarter for lists. Some people use those dual lands from Scars of Mirrodin as a budget replacement for the real duals.
There's the Winter Classic Celebration starting next week, so build your deck fast!
Nice to see classic get some true recognition. Thanks to all the guys who've helped classic grow over the last few years, and thanks to wotc for recognizing all the hard work that's gone into it.
Im not sure why they chose classic, other then its the best format.....
but the desision was made as early as august 23rd. thats when danger linto announced that the poty race would run all the way till january 7th. come on out guys!. my article next week will have some budget friendly classic options in it to entice different player groups. on top of budgety decks like dredge and gw hate.
You know what would have been really awesome....
If they had put the Classic PE schedule up already!
It takes a lot of planning for me to block out 5+ hours... the sooner I know when they are the more likely I can play in them...
I usually never have a problem with seeing 2 early on. I mean yes, it does suck to have 2 so called, dead cards in your hand when you can't cast them, but this deck has so many tools to stall, unless your losing to variance/luck, you should have enough time to get to 6
-2 Dead W main (only good for infect matchup) and +2 Crypt rats main - simply never a time you don't want to see that card.
Against AnT I sided in permanent based hate and AnT generally only really wants Bob to fight against counter based decks. Also Xantid Swarm doesn't help much against the specific type of hate that I used. If I had seen Bob game 2 then I would have bought in swords back in. Usually my experience against AnT or even TES(The Epic Storm 4 color based tendril decks) that is they bring in hard discard (Thoughtseize not duress)or bounce in many forms.
Against Koby right or wrong I made the decision to try and tie up as much of he's mana as I could for choke. Also I decided that I couldn't out finesse him, but instead out muscle him with my fatties. So I made as much room as possible by removing the weakest creatures and hopefully eat up mana with Stoneforge activation/equipment activation.. Finally this is Koby who I often test with and run my deck list ideas against. He knows about my Aven's so if he wants to play around them when they are gone, all the better for me.
Not a bad attempt at a first article. Paul made some helpful suggestions that would help improve your next one.
I had a few questions regarding your matches.
Match 1 - You removed all swords, I'm assuming your opponent wasn't splashing green for Xantid, otherwise taking out all 4 swords seems wrong to me. I realize most ANT lists don't run Xantid, so probably no biggie. You did point to the fact you saw no Bobs, so I guess removing all 4 swords was the right play. Do you leave swords in if you anticipate Bob? Nice rip on the top deck GSZ btw lol.
Match vs. Koby - Maybe Koby himself can comment on this better than I, since he took maverick to a Top 8 Finish. Isn't taking out Aven Mindcensor a bad idea since he is fetching up equipment, wouldn't Aven stop that from happening (well at least give him minimal chances of drawing equipment). Plus isn't Aven a pretty good sword holder himself? Just seems to me that removing him isn't a money play.
Nice to see some Legacy content on the site........you have inspired me, maybe it is time to write again!
-Impinainteasy-
First of all: Welcome to Puremtgo. We tend to pride ourselves on our well-formated, easily read articles here. In that vein here are some tips:
http://jamuraa.com/pure/deck_new.php <--- to help format deck lists. You may need to tweak the html afterward if your list contains cards that jamuraa's application does not recognize.
Click on the plain text link in the Rich Text editor to see your browser's native spellchecker turn all those little misspellings red (or whatever color the browser is set to display for that function). If this is too odd for you, both Office and Open Office provide ways to spellcheck as do any number of other text editors and word processors. (Highly recommended).
Also in the same vein it helps to have a friend/associate/paid employee read over your article and help you out with proofreading and grammar. Do not be afraid to ask for help in this regard.
(pic=card name) is how you insert pictures of cards into the article. This breaks up long winded sections of the article into more bite sized pieces.
(tmb=card name) inserts a thumbnail instead. This is useful for demonstrating a hand sample or simply giving a long list of possible cards in your tech discussion.
(cardname) hyperlinks the card named to the mtgotraders site which serves two purposes. 1) It leads people to the sponsor of this site so they may purchase the cards you are talking about. 2) It gives the reader a reference to cards which may or may not be obscure to them.
If you have questions for the editor write him: joshuaDOTClaytorATgmailDOTcom.
Hope this helps with future articles.
PS: You can alter the size of the youtube code display in youtube itself which will give your video watchers more screen to watch with. You might also want to consider centering all such displays so they stand out and look presented as opposed to just tacked on.
More like Timmy. Stylish win con but not complicated or hard to find. Oh and some Vorthos for good measure (Theme ties into movies.)
Thanks for the reply and suggestions. I guess "Johnny Deck" is not the correct term. I'm still learning. :-)
1:18 PM ApolloGod: rules of mtgo: 1. if you win, you netdecked. 2. if your deck is good, it's cheap. 3. if you have $$$, you're lame. 4. if you play discard/counter/ld/mill you're boring. 5. if you don't let your opp win all the time, you're a jerk
Paul and George- My favorite Pure peeps that share names with 2 Beatles :D
I apologize if i'm mistaken, but you mentioned that this is a Johnny deck, implying weird combos. This looks like a fairly standard zombie deck. Play zombies, kill creatures, ???, profit. Granted, it looks pretty effective, but these kinds of decks kind of build themselves.
I would suggest Gempalm Polluter as a win condition/card draw over the Gravediggers. They work well with Lord of the Undead as well. Also, 24 lands seems a bit steep for a deck with a maximum casting cost of 4 (3 if you replace the Gravediggers). I'm glad you found success with it though!
Happy Birthday young un! :D
With a name like Jason Hall I'm going to have to assume that English is your first language. The contents of they article may very well be great, but the formatting and complete lack of editing is SO bad the best I could do was skim it.
I'll go ahead and leave it unrated since, well, there "were" a lot of words there, and it is your first article here. Still, first impressions are everything, I'd work on it.
Ob Nixilis is a beast, and probably a safer/faster win condition than with mill.
happy b day guy. dont get to hammered. I apulogise (ehh, ehh,) if thats corny.
I don't fault you. I am a n00b around here. I appreciate the ad hoc mention. :)
No apaulogy necessary (see what I did there?)
BTW-shameless plug- I am 32 today. This is a great b-day present. A mention from the infamous one million words!!!
Thank you.
Argh - facepalm.
Apaulogy should have been in the list. You were in the mental list I was making planning this article during my commute, and one of the names I could not remember when finally writing.
Sorry.
I am going to join in on your guys' Holiday celebration.
Hopefully I can win something now!!
See you all in the winter celebration and congrats on establishing your format.
pretty cool deck
I experimented around with Planar Birth quite a bit ...
I had a BW version that usually won off Ob Nixilis, when all my lands came back into play ...
I also had a RW version that used Emeria Angel & Countryside Crushers ... also took advantage of Devastating Summons
Had some pretty sick plays with Balance in both of those decks
I dislike mill decks, but your avatar is still awesome.
The best way to start is to pick a deck and buy into that. Some sort of GW hate is probably your cheapest competitive option. Look at the Tournament or Deck List page on Classic Quarter for lists. Some people use those dual lands from Scars of Mirrodin as a budget replacement for the real duals.
There's the Winter Classic Celebration starting next week, so build your deck fast!
Nice to see classic get some true recognition. Thanks to all the guys who've helped classic grow over the last few years, and thanks to wotc for recognizing all the hard work that's gone into it.
yay for classic.
yay for pete.
yay for pure.
Im not sure why they chose classic, other then its the best format.....
but the desision was made as early as august 23rd. thats when danger linto announced that the poty race would run all the way till january 7th. come on out guys!. my article next week will have some budget friendly classic options in it to entice different player groups. on top of budgety decks like dredge and gw hate.
The reason I'm only playing 3 Corrupt is I want to draw at least one each game but I don't want to draw multiples early on.
Yes! It is, my bad hah!